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Ukraine to be told it is too corrupt to join Nato
The Telegraph ^ | 7/3/24 | Joe Barnes

Posted on 07/03/2024 5:15:32 AM PDT by JonPreston

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To: JonPreston
It's the Cicada Zeeper Emergence!!!!!


61 posted on 07/03/2024 8:51:35 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (๐Ÿฆ… MAGADONIAN โš”๏ธ )
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To: BDParrish; BobL

Yes. I know the Ukrainian part of the Soviet Union was treated horribly in the past by the Russian part of the Soviet Union (as in the Holodomor) but in much of the later parts of Soviet history, they shared in the power, and shared in the abuses of their own people.

And the Soviet-style corruption did not stop at an internal border. It had decades to become completely endemic and entrenched.

Even though they may be enemies, they share a common history. As much as the Ukrainians hate to admit it.

That may be simplistic, especially in the minds of Ukrainians, but...I believe that to be a fact.


62 posted on 07/03/2024 8:57:09 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ฏ


63 posted on 07/03/2024 8:58:11 AM PDT by JonPreston ( โœŒ โ˜ฎ๏ธ )
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Russians are home.

LOL. Ukraine and the rest of the world would disagree. One does not just break and enter into a house and then claim it as one's own. The real owners have every right to expel squatters.

64 posted on 07/03/2024 9:02:34 AM PDT by Petrosius
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โ€”> One does not just break and enter into a house and then claim it as one’s own. The real owners have every right to expel

Maybe not, but that is exactly how war works.

Now if Ukraine canโ€™t expel, they will be destroyed or accept peace.


65 posted on 07/03/2024 9:05:51 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (๐Ÿฆ… MAGADONIAN โš”๏ธ )
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And you support that?


66 posted on 07/03/2024 9:12:21 AM PDT by Petrosius
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You are spot on there.

I have no animosity towards Ukrainians. I have developed a great deal of animosity towards both their government and the Russian government.

I feel sympathy for them, and I vigorously object to Russian actions in this, but I see no strategic reason for us to be sending them tens or hundreds of billions of un-allocated, un-watched American dollars.

Not unless one counts kickbacks, bribes, and influence peddling as a strategic interest.

Our great, great, great, great grandchildren will be paying that money we are sending them back.


67 posted on 07/03/2024 9:15:02 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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