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To: Zhang Fei

The IDF real purpose of genocide is going along swimmingly. The stated goal of “complete destruction” of Hamas has been a complete and total failure. Not only has the Arab world been united against Israel and the US but so has the rest of the non decadent West world. Check out the votes in the UN for verification of my statement and the debunking of yours. Hezbollah kicked the IDF out of Lebanon twenty years. NOW, Hezbollah is armed to the teeth with drones and missiles. If Netanyahu goes against Hezbollah, Zionism will finally get its comeuppance.


13 posted on 06/18/2024 2:14:17 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

[The IDF real purpose of genocide is going along swimmingly. The stated goal of “complete destruction” of Hamas has been a complete and total failure. Not only has the Arab world been united against Israel and the US but so has the rest of the non decadent West world.

Check out the votes in the UN for verification of my statement and the debunking of yours. Hezbollah kicked the IDF out of Lebanon twenty years. NOW, Hezbollah is armed to the teeth with drones and missiles. If Netanyahu goes against Hezbollah, Zionism will finally get its comeuppance.]


The world has never not been united against Jews. The one country that has supported Jews more often than not is the US.

During the first Yom Kippur War, when Israel fought to avoid extermination, Europe not only refused to send aid, it refused overflight rights for US aid. Every hand was turned against Israel.

The Russians only gave the Arabs all the gear they wanted, they prepared to intervene directly with Russian military units. (Even then, Russian military competence wasn’t all that. 3 years before, they sent up Russian pilots against Israel, lost 5).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rimon_20

During Yom Kippur I, the world, including Europe, backed the Arabs to the hilt. Israel not only held the Arabs at bay, it approached artillery range of the Egyptian and Syrian capitals. You could say it was an Israeli defeat since Israel was taken by surprise, and Arabs certainly do. But in their hearts of hearts, Arabs and other Jew haters recognize that Israel’s continued existence is in itself a victory. To survive as a state in the face of almost universal hatred of Jews and support for its 2b Muslim enemies is a towering achievement.

For some perspective on Yom Kippur I, Ukraine has lost almost 10x the territory of the entire state of Israel against an attacking Russian force maybe 1/4 that of the Arab armies invading Israel in 1973. But Israel not only held the Arabs, it pushed them back.

Whereas in Yom Kippur 2, the Arab attackers have not only not occupied any part of Israel more than a day, their cities are now rubble. Hamas is not only unable to defend itself against the relentless reduction of its men, it has seen the destruction of the families who decided to act as human shields for their fighting men.

After 9/11, it took decades and $2T for the US to gradually reduce the capabilities of al Qaeda and its offshoots to a manageable level. This was with the US threatening Arab and Muslim governments to cut off financial flows, and European governments cooperating. Whereas the entire world supports Hamas’s genocidal goals, and both the US and Europe are providing Hamas with financial backing and literally feeding it.

Israel won’t destroy Hamas as a military force in a matter of months. But it will, as the US did with al Qaeda, reduce its numbers faster than it can regenerate them.

In WW2, the deaths of 12% and 5% of Germany and Japan respectively, including 2m German and 1m Japanese city dwellers, were key to a quiet postwar era. Arab submission will probably require a similar death toll in Gaza. Between 100K and 200K Gazans have to die in order for Hamas to lose its hold on the population. Just as not every German or Japanese soldier had to be killed, not every Hamas guerrilla has to fill a grave for Hamas to be gutted as a force able or willing to mount another 10/7. The Taliban rules Afghanistan as it once did. But it will be a long time before it sponsors another 9/11.

Re Hezbollah, it has demonstrated an ability, in defensive positions, to maul an Israel shackled by rules of engagement that prevented it from bombing civilian dwellings from which fire was being directed. Now that those shackles are off, Hezbollah will likely share the fate of Hamas when Israel finally turns its attention northward. Significant parts of South Lebanon will become rubble, and a large permanent enclave for Lebanese Christians and maybe Druze might be created in which they can shelter from Shiite dominance.

Whatever Israel’s designs for the region, Hezbollah is likely to have both fewer men and vast equipment stores destroyed. For a long time, Israel avoided Hamas ammo dumps and other targets located among civilians. Just as it no longer does, a similar evolution is taking place in Israeli rules of engagement with respect to Hezbollah stores.


26 posted on 06/18/2024 7:04:41 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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