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I don't claim to understand Israeli politics or governance. And, I generally support the conservative movement in Israel led by Netanyahu.

However, I believe it is time for Bibi to fall on his sword, resign, and call elections. He is ultimately responsible for failing to heed the many warnings of the coming attack. Whether he personally knew of the warnings has not been established to my knowledge, but that is also irrelevant. It is his responsibility to run a whole government that protects its citizens. He failed. Time for new leadership. In my opinion.

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1 posted on 06/17/2024 3:56:56 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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63 posted on 06/18/2024 6:19:19 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do)
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The problem with Israel’s defense and intelligence establishments is (IMHO, as someone who has observed Israel with great fondness for the last 50 or so years and, in particular, these aspects of their society) that most of the time those in charge are infected by an insufferable amount of arrogance. You don’t get to be in charge by being a dope (and many who are very intelligent are arrogant to begin with); further, when dealing with opponents whose population has an average IQ of 85, you tend to be successful quite often - and that breeds yet more arrogance AND complacency.

We suffered from the same problems before Pearl Harbor - the “lowly” Japanese could never produce sophisticated enough technology, nor come up with the planning, necessary to pull off something like a raid on Pearl - so it was dismissed, even when elements of the military and our intelligence services KNEW what was happening - Hell, we saw their f’ing planes on radar and simply dismissed them.

The only way to fix this problem is to ALWAYS have a Team B, complosed of retired military and intell officials who are known to be stubborn and who operated against the conventional wisdom when they were active. If they despise those in charge of the military and intell agencies today, so much the better - and then those in charge had BETTER listen seriously to Team B’s recommendations, because if they don’t, then there’s no point. Reagan had a Team B to deal with the Soviet threat, and their recommendations were adopted in many cases, and to our great advantage to the conventional wisdom, CYA types that tend to inhabit the bureaucracies of ALL nations.


66 posted on 06/18/2024 12:58:22 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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