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Putin offers truce if Ukraine exits Russian-claimed areas and drops NATO bid. Kyiv calls it 'absurd'
AP via Yahoo ^ | June 14th, 2024 | DASHA LITVINOVA

Posted on 06/14/2024 2:24:00 PM PDT by Mariner

Russian President Vladimir Putin promised Friday to “immediately” order a cease-fire in Ukraine and begin negotiations if Kyiv started withdrawing troops from the four regions annexed by Moscow in 2022 and renounced plans to join NATO. Ukraine responded by calling Putin’s proposal “manipulative” and “absurd.”

Putin’s remarks came as Switzerland prepared to host scores of world leaders -- but not from Moscow -- this weekend to try to map out first steps toward peace in Ukraine.

They also coincided with a meeting of leaders of the Group of Seven leading industrialized nations in Italy and after the U.S. and Ukraine this week also signed a 10-year security agreement that Russian officials, including Putin, denounced as “null and void.”

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TOPICS: European Union; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: annexation; dashalitvinova; landforpeace; landlandlandforpeace; putin; russia; theputin; therussia; theukraine; ukraine
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To: This_Dude

The world doesn’t care about abortion, your rights to bear arms, free speech or your economic situation either. Best to just let it take its course.


61 posted on 06/14/2024 5:11:05 PM PDT by Dat
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To: Mariner
Putin knows Z won't take it.

The real point is to influence former Warsaw pact NATO members to bail.

62 posted on 06/14/2024 5:11:44 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Mark was here
Definition of the word ilk: "a type of people or things similar to those already referred to."

If an actual word like ilk offends you, you're a snowflake. At least I didn't use a made up label like your ilk used "Putin Trolls."

63 posted on 06/14/2024 5:41:00 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Brian Griffin

How do you know that a Russian offensive would go outside of the borders of the Ukraine?


64 posted on 06/14/2024 6:07:34 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: BobL
They’re being ORDERED to reject the plan, just as they were 2 years ago. But too bad - the chance to END THE BLOODSHED is right there in front of them, but they won’t be allowed to accept it.

Yup. They better pay the danegeld his coin, and just hope in one hand that Russia doesn't come back for more in ten years. I'm sure you know what their other hand is gonna be full of.
65 posted on 06/14/2024 7:02:06 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: mass55th

So “ilk” is not a label, and words have definitions. Simply brilliant.


66 posted on 06/14/2024 7:20:32 PM PDT by Mark was here
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To: Mark was here
"So “ilk” is not a label, and words have definitions. Simply brilliant."

Thank you.

67 posted on 06/14/2024 7:24:18 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Mariner

The Hitler analogy is unfortunately quite accurate with respect to Putin.


68 posted on 06/14/2024 7:45:48 PM PDT by devere
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To: BobL
But you are working for Putin by repeating the talking points of Putin and the Russian government.
69 posted on 06/14/2024 7:45:56 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Mariner

Another simpleton concept for you. Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”.
When our Founding Fathers, fought against the King for these simpleton concepts, they were helped by the French, in what you refer to as a proxy war. Sure, it was a way to stick it to England, but it helped secure our Liberties.
I see your point, once we got our Liberties, it is more pragmatic for the Ukrainians to surrender their Liberties, than have the United States lend a hand. Helping others secure their liberties, is a task beneath us. A task for simpletons.


70 posted on 06/14/2024 7:46:36 PM PDT by Mark was here
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To: mass55th
You can be opposed to funding for Ukraine without cheerleading for Putin.

Read the other comments and think about whether they aren't the 2024 version of what Jane Fonda was doing in 1972.

She was opposed to the US fighting in the war in Vietnam just like some posters here are opposed to the US supporting Ukraine in its war.

71 posted on 06/14/2024 7:49:16 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Nonsense. Jane Fonda supported an enemy actively at war with the US.


72 posted on 06/14/2024 7:50:52 PM PDT by anton
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To: Sacajaweau
I think you have it backwards. The Russians are destroying the homes of ethnically Russian Ukrainians, and killing them with indiscriminate bombing and shelling.

Look at what the Russians did to Mariupol, or the towns are Kharkiv.

73 posted on 06/14/2024 7:51:15 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing; Admin Moderator

“But you are working for Putin”

Please refrain from the personal attacks on other FReepers as JR has been quite clear that those types of attacks are not permitted here.


74 posted on 06/14/2024 7:51:17 PM PDT by BobL
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To: anton
And a number of posters here are supporting a country whose goal has been to destroy the USA for a long time. Why are people worried about a nuclear war with Russia if they are our friends?
75 posted on 06/14/2024 7:56:48 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: BobL
That's not a personal attack. Repeating pro-Russian talking points is working for Putin, whether you are getting paid or not.

Are you getting paid? If not, why do you care that someone correctly identified who you are supporting?

76 posted on 06/14/2024 7:58:48 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: BobL; Admin Moderator

And by the way, do you always misquote other Freepers when you run to the mods?


77 posted on 06/14/2024 8:01:00 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: This_Dude

Of course, concepts like Natural Rights, right and wrong, do not exist in nature. Their only value is as a set of rules, to have a civilized society.
Theft, murder and rape, are only wrong by our made-up rules. So yeah, that is how the world works. If some choose to ignore these rules, I see your point, so what?


78 posted on 06/14/2024 8:04:15 PM PDT by Mark was here
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To: freeandfreezing

“And by the way, do you always misquote other Freepers when you run to the mods?”

Those were YOUR WORDS. Your association of me working for Putin are VERY CLEAR. Sorry if it hurts your feelings to be called out.

YOUR WORDS:

“But you are working for Putin”


79 posted on 06/14/2024 8:10:55 PM PDT by BobL
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To: freeandfreezing; Admin Moderator

“Repeating pro-Russian talking points is working for Putin”

Again, please refrain from the personal attacks on other FReepers as JR has been quite clear that those types of attacks are not permitted here.

Also the mods do not appreciate people who DOUBLE DOWN with their PERSONAL ATTACKS.


80 posted on 06/14/2024 8:12:43 PM PDT by BobL
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