Posted on 06/12/2024 7:42:17 AM PDT by artichokegrower
Who saw this coming. That state doesn't pay for anything. The taxpayers do. Any tax put on doctors and medical providers will be passed on to the patients with private health care or pay cash. As per Newsom the illegals are protected.
Medi-CAL. I do believe the state tries to collect from your estate after you croak.
Former USA is GONE!
The Left is bit by bit making medical care more costly on their long road to a final demand that to “fix it” - a problem they helped cause - medical care MUST be “nationalized”. The medical profession, which continues to vote left of center, will finally reap what they’ve sown.
The taxpayers are leaving. They’re running away. They’re not staying to fix it. That’s sick. Soon the medical rules will need to change. The MDs won’t get paid. Hospitals won’t get paid. They won’t turn people away so they’ll get medical services
One in three is totally on govt pay
Low percentage of Medicaid recipients work.
The taxpayers are going to Texas. And not to improve it.
The Texans are paying for more highway structure. Massive.
Took me and my highway mates 5 hours to get 15 miles. The Texans can’t figure out how to properly close a road for construction. They made us sit in non moving traffic 5 hours and more no traffic cops no notification on their stupid nanny billboards no newsflash we can go to on our cell phones. Those disease in Austin will let this roll right over the Texans and turn this into a blue state that will fail
“With 1 out of 3 Californians on Medicaid, doctors push ballot measure to force state to pay more”
Let’s see, who will pay more ... the poor folks: no, they are the ones on Medicaid ... the rich folks: no, they will find some way to weasel out of it as they usually do ... the Middle class: of course because the government will make them pay for it as it is just part of their plans to destroy the Middle Class.
One of three on Medicaid
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This is cleanly unsustainable.
I guess it started with Obamacare massive extension of Medicaid. Now even illegals are covered.
US is on trajectory of free medicine, when everywhere else they figured out it cannot be done.
Problem with free is that people will abuse it!
Even Communists figured it and in later years of communism, they started asking for some co-payments in their socialized medicine!
“Medical spending as a percentage of the national economy has increased by a factor of five since Medicare was put into place. Medical spending was approximately 4% of GDP in the 1960s...Medical spending is almost 20% of GDP today, or five times as high in percentage terms.”
“Medicaid is even worse because there no tax assessed to cover it. That is, Medicaid is a “pure” entitlement and last year spent approximately $400 billion.”
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=234584
The time to fix this problem was 30 years ago. It’s simply a matter of time before the medical system collapses the economy.
“The United States spends $12555 per capita on health, more than the OECD average of $4986 (USD PPP).”
https://www.oecd.org/unitedstates/health-at-a-glance-United-States-EN.pdf
When the government starts to assume the mass payment of things (think college “education”), the industry that benefits quits thinking how to be most cost efficient and cost effective, and the cost of their products and services begins to exceed the inflation rates in other things.
I did an analysis some years back comparing the average annual tuition cost of college and the price of a gallon over gasoline over the period of 1970s to 2006. My analysis at the time showed that if the price of a gallon of gasoline had risen by an inflation factor equal to the cost of college tuition, gasoline would cost over $12 a gallon.
Government largess to any industry helps make that industry run based on, and seeking more of, that government largess more than anything else. It becomes a circle that just keeps expanding. The handouts help raise the cost, which is followed by requests for greater handouts, which is followed by greater costs, which is followed demand for greater handouts, ad infinitum.
Medicare will break the USA, the same way entitlements broke the Weirmar Republic and allowed the Nazis come to power.
This is by Deep State design.
The solution is to drastically cut back those eligible for Medicare, starting with illegal aliens (only citizens get anything).
Newsom is just doing what Commiecrats do: tax & spend. He’s going to tax the worker bees to death at this rate.
“Let’s see, who will pay more ... the poor folks: no, they are the ones on Medicaid ... the rich folks: no, they will find some way to weasel out of it as they usually do ... the Middle class: of course”
We need to cap the ability of Democrats to buy votes by a middle-class income tax cap in the federal constitution.
Fighting for such a middle-class income tax cap now in Congress would add the electors of several deep blue states to Trump’s total and make Congress turn deep red come November.
[perhaps]
Federal income taxation shall be capped as follows, on personal income:
below the average yearly apartment rent in the District of Columbia, 10%,
below the median federal full-time civilian employee compensation amount, 22%,
below the average upper quartile of federal full-time civilian employee compensation amount, 30%,
below the average upper decile of federal full-time civilian employee compensation amount, 40%.
[Note: All percentages include employee FICA. They do not fully include self-employment tax, so people that pay SE tax might choose to voluntarily invest in the SS system or otherwise arrange for their own retirement funding.]
Which is why the founders never put into the constitution the authority for the fed gov to do any of that. And the lib-tards last century just took the power with no push back.
Maybe a nice SCOTUS case striking entitlements down as unconstitutional would ‘fix’ things. /sarc
“... medical care MUST be “nationalized ...”
Not my choice now but if it were done with a cap on funding based on, say, GDP, it would contain costs.
bttt
Can anyone else think of an alternative solution to a tax increase that would help solve the problem?
“Not my choice now but if it were done with a cap on funding based on, say, GDP, it would contain costs.”
Yes, and like the U.K. quality and availability of care would gradually become worse because the “cost containment” measures are themselves artificial, artiificial to the products and services being offered.
No. The problem is the government itself. Left 100% to market forces, the availability of care would go up and the cost would go down. Instead the industry is just competing for more government dollars.
Medicaid (Medi-Cal in California) is not the same as Medicare. I have been paying into Medicare since 1966. Since I am still working full time I will pay close to $4,000 in Medicare tax this year. I pay for Medicare Part B. I pay for my Medicare supplement plans. Medicaid is a freebie
Mewsom’s Californication is busted, broke and bankrupt
Apologies, I meant “Medicaid”
Aid the poor.
Care for the old.
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