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Rubio and the $64,000 Question
The Last Refuge ^ | June 10, 2024 | Sundance

Posted on 06/11/2024 11:08:14 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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1 posted on 06/11/2024 11:08:14 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

No, not Rubio.

I think it’s Vivek.


2 posted on 06/11/2024 11:10:12 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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President and VP cannot be from same state.


3 posted on 06/11/2024 11:10:57 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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4 posted on 06/11/2024 11:12:52 AM PDT by cotton1706
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5 posted on 06/11/2024 11:14:58 AM PDT by cotton1706
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Exactly! The gang of eight. Along with Grover Norquist.
Rubio is owned and was made by immigration lawyer lobbyist Cesar Conda to keep borders open. If Trump picks Rubio, I won’t work to elect them.
https://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2015/11/marco-rubioowned-by-illegal-alien-lobby.html?m=1


6 posted on 06/11/2024 11:17:19 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rubio has the same state elector problem as DeSantis and Donalds have, but I think Rubio now has an incurable case of DC Swamp Fever. One symptom is throwing federal money at any sort of problem.


7 posted on 06/11/2024 11:20:36 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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So, will Cuban Rubio change his residence to Cuba so Trump doesn’t lose Florida’s electoral votes?


8 posted on 06/11/2024 11:23:13 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Build the Wall, Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone.)
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Both Rubio and Vivek are anchor babies -— something at one point Trump said he wanted to put a stop to. If he still does, it’d be hard for him to argue for it with an anchor baby veep.


9 posted on 06/11/2024 11:23:43 AM PDT by Tell It Right (Galatians 6:14 -- May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ...)
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To: Resolute Conservative

They can but the electors can only vote for one of them.

Trump would need enough EVs to cover the loss of Fla fir Rubio as VP.


10 posted on 06/11/2024 11:24:35 AM PDT by Fledermaus (We Are Now In A Civil War!)
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Why not Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee?

-PJ

11 posted on 06/11/2024 11:25:28 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Tell It Right
Vivek is not an "anchor baby". Part of MSM's disinformation. Vivek is a natural born citizen.

Summary on Vivek’s status as a natural born citizen (NBC):

NBC is a legal issue. Vivek Ramaswamy was born on August 8, 1985 in Cincinnati, Ohio to parents who were in the U.S. legally but not U.S. citizens. The U.S. Supreme Court (SC) has ruled that someone who is born on U.S. soil is an NBC if at the time of his birth, his parents were in the U.S. legally but not U.S. citizens. Therefore, according to the mandatory legal authority of sound constitutionally-based SC ruling and precedent, Vivek is an NBC.

Detailed argument

Since around 1900, (SC) rulings have become less and less valid because SC has gradually moved away from basing their decisions on the Constitution as written and originally understood and intended. But their ruling on NBC appear to be based on sound application of the Constitution.

In Perkins v. Elg, 99 F. 2d 408, Court of Appeals, Dist. of Columbia Circuit 1938, the Court of Appeals noted as part of the basis for their decision that...

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S. Ct. 456, 42 L. Ed. 890, 1898 [found that] [W]hen the Constitution was adopted the people of the United States were the citizens of the several States for whom and for whose posterity the government was established. Each of them was a citizen of the United States at the adoption of the Constitution, and all free persons thereafter born within one of the several States became by birth citizens of the State and of the United States.

It appears the Supreme Court in Elg (1939) agrees with Ark (1898).

(Both Marie Elizabeth Elg and Wong Kim Ark were born on U.S. soil to parents who were here legally but not U.S. citizens.)

Again, the Constitution is properly applied as written and ORIGINALLY UNDERSTOOD and intended. What matters is what the ratifiers of the Constitution considered an NBC was. The Supreme Court decisions based on the good-faith and sound finding of original understanding of NBC in the Constitution is, therefore, legal precedent concerning NBC. Thus, Vivek should be considered an NBC.

Some argue that the term "NBC" is not specifically used in Ark or Elg, but these cases revolve around citizenship based on birth on U.S. soil, which is exactly what NBC is. An NBC is a citizen automatically because he was born on U.S. soil. He is “naturally” and automatically a citizen needing no further processing to become a U.S. citizen. He becomes a citizen under “natural” (birth) circumstances, exactly as Elg, Ark, and now Vivek.

12 posted on 06/11/2024 11:26:26 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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“President and VP cannot be from same state.”

Trump may be a resident of New York again when the electors vote.

https://doccs.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2022/09/facility-map-11-1-22.pdf


13 posted on 06/11/2024 11:26:40 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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No Rubio, he is totally compromised.

Ben Carson is too nice, we need a warrior


14 posted on 06/11/2024 11:27:59 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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to parents who were in the U.S. legally but not U.S. citizens

The very definition of anchor baby is not based on if the parents were here legally when he was born.

15 posted on 06/11/2024 11:28:18 AM PDT by Tell It Right (Galatians 6:14 -- May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ...)
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Quote via The Conservative Treehouse:

John Bingham, framer of 14th Amend. – “I do not stand here to cavil with men who are not read in the horn-books of the law; but I assert that every man born within the limits of the Republic, or under its flag at sea, of parents who were not the subjects of any other sovereignty, are, in the very words of the Constitution, natural born citizens.”

Rep Bingham quote is from Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 407 (1862)

Enter in 407, click Turn to image, and look at the end of the first and beginning of the second column:
https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=058/llcg058.db&recNum=64


16 posted on 06/11/2024 11:29:30 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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You never Trumpers would love it if he chose rubio. It ain’t happening anymore then desanctomonious would be chosen. You losers would support anything that you think hurts Trump, including persecution.

These posters are fake Trump supporters, they are actually never Trumpers:
ifinnegan
TexasGator
GulliverSwift
Reno89519
joesbucks
Erik Latranyi


17 posted on 06/11/2024 11:29:44 AM PDT by JoSixChip (P.S. There’s a fed in that thread you’re in right now.)
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To: SoConPubbie

As a Hispanic, I say NO and HELL NO! He’s one of those linguine spine RINOS! Two face RINO!


18 posted on 06/11/2024 11:30:17 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Tell It Right

Vviek is an NBC.


19 posted on 06/11/2024 11:30:34 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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Bingo.


20 posted on 06/11/2024 11:30:59 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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