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To: Dick Vomer
If you read my post, you would see that I draw a distinction between 'deliberate' killing of babies, as an end in itself, and having that as an unavoidable side effect of weapons aimed at military targets.

If that distinction does *not* matter to you, then you belong with the terrorists. If that distinction *does* matter to you, then the rest of your posting is irrelevant.
19 posted on 06/11/2024 2:50:42 PM PDT by Phlyer
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To: Phlyer
If you read my post, you would see that I draw a distinction between 'deliberate' killing of babies, as an end in itself, and having that as an unavoidable side effect of weapons aimed at military targets.

You just keep telling yourself that.

I just love the little weasel words..."Deliberate killing of babies".... hey, ask yourself this. If you let off a couple of 1000lb bombs in a city....even "precision" bombs... you think that unless the pilot says, "oh yeah, I can see the little tyke right there....let 'em go".... or is it that so he can justify and cleanse his conscious by saying "well who knew if little babies or children or innocent people are near my munitions".... probably didn't hit them anyway.... and if I did, it was an accident... but was it? Was it really? Go look at what large munitions do to cities pal. They can drop concrete bombs that kill occupants with air pressure and not the blast... the insides are goo but the outsides aren't sprayed all over the walls and street.

Let loose with a .50, or .240 and just MAYBE a stray round kicks around and just happens to kill a child.... accident, random but if you let loose with that weapon in a city, it's gotta go somewhere, right?

You are under the illusion of neat, precision, righteous, well intentioned war.... It's not that way and will never be that way. Do you think that Sherman knew he'd starve little rebel babies when he decided to burn everything as he led some 60,000 soldiers on a long march from Atlanta to Savannah, Georgia. The purpose of Sherman's March to the Sea was to frighten Georgia's civilian population into abandoning the Confederate cause

Finally when dealing with insurgencies, they are the most personal and the killing is done with that up close personal method that gives nightmares to witnesses and participants.

I won't even prejudice you with any recommendations of counter insurgency and insurgency manuals, books or studies.... look up how they were won and what it took.

I love the little "you belong with the terrorists". ... Guess what my friend, if you or your country killed my family, I'd spend every waking hour of the rest of my life getting payback. In the exact manner and loss that I suffered.

That's why insurgencies are so tough to fight. But since there are rules that you think happen in the field, then please direct me to the book that explicitly explains how to not kill children when making war in urban environments. I will admit that I've read some books on the subject and they are agnostic on the quantity and methods that civilians are to be intimidated in order to fully combat insurgents and win the long conflict.

21 posted on 06/11/2024 4:18:15 PM PDT by Dick Vomer ( (2 Timothy 4:7 "deo duce ferro comitantes" <p><b></B><P> <img src="">)
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