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To: BobL
When they’re wrong again regarding the navel capabilities of China and Russia to take on our navy, then we’re talking tens of thousands of AMERICAN lives.

Russian naval capabilities? Russia is handily losing the sea battle to a nation with no navy. Russia's only carrier is caveman technology, and can't even get out of harbor (even with her tugboat), much less launch more than maybe a helicopter. Russia's only good naval forces are her icebreakers, which isn't a big military factor. All of her subs have a tail.

China's capabilities are marginally better. Their carriers at least get in the water, but they're still ski-jump style (active ones), and have no experience with sustained blue-water operations. Subs are also likely all followed everywhere. Hypersonic missiles are hyped crap that isn't very effective right now. They're fast, but that's it. Not very maneuverable, needs good intel on ship location, and isn't easy to communicate with for in-flight targetting updates. Just finding and hitting a targetinthe middle of the sea is difficult enough, much less moving target, much less maneuvering target, much less a target that shoots back. Both at incoming and at launch sites.

Logistics is another factor that China is questionable, and Russia is lacking, that limits what either of them can project. Sustain entry requires food, fuel, water, ammo, spare parts, etc etc etc. Russia can barely get 200 mi outside their border, how are they supposed to support anything across an ocean? China might be able to do more, but in contested waters that's not very likely.
50 posted on 06/10/2024 6:37:46 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

“Russian naval capabilities? Russia is handily losing the sea battle to a nation with no navy.”

I didn’t realize that NATO didn’t have a navy.

That’s all I need to read.


51 posted on 06/10/2024 6:56:25 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Svartalfiar; BobL

“Logistics is another factor that China is questionable,...”


If a terrorist group can impose a naval blockade of the Suez Canal via drones, I bet China can blockade Taiwan using the same tactics.

This whole concept that they need 10 carriers and they have to do a D Day invasion is nonsense.


67 posted on 06/10/2024 10:44:03 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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