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To: RandFan

It begs the question.

What is the lesson of World War Two?

From out here in the cheap seats, in the fullness of time, it looks a whole lot like US Involvement in World War One set the stage. The world has yet to recover. Historians look at “both” wars as a single war, with a monetary bubble and collapse in between.

“Isolationism” (a smear word, carefully and specifically curated for the purpose) was a perfectly rational sentiment after the debacle of the “Great War”. America was founded on the very principle of getting away from all the assholes in Europe, get right down to it.

I understand his point, but it is disingenuous to leave out World War One and suggest 2.0 just came out of left field. Both Communism and Naziism, collectivist totalitarianism were borne out the “War to End All Wars”.

Imagine - no Bolshevik Revolution. No German Revolution. No Korea. Mao. No Viet Nam No Pol Pot. Castro. East German. Cold War. Etc. The bell they rang in 1914 is still ringing today.

I think I read somewhere the political boundaries of Iraq were drawn up by Churchill - all sorts of countries, were made without regard to political or ethnic considerations. My point is a policy of “Non Intervention” is not “Isolationism”, these are specific terms designed to shut down debate.

Congress hasn’t declared War since 1941. In the interim, America has had several wars that no articulable compelling “National Interest” has been proffered. It is getting tedious to listen to someone with no skin in the game telling us to “Rally Round The Flag Boys!” to die on the other side of the world protecting their borders whilst millions and millions pour across our borders.

What does the good Senator suggest our military is actually for? Does anybody even remember? Yeah, good luck with all that.


18 posted on 06/07/2024 5:51:02 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

“I think I read somewhere the political boundaries of Iraq were drawn up by Churchill - all sorts of countries, were made without regard to political or ethnic considerations.”

Actually they were made in regard to political/ethnic consideration, but for the opposite reason than you’re thinking. Take the Kurds, a very strong group - they were broken up into 4 countries because it would have been impossible to control them if they were together. That’s my understanding of the thinking back then.


30 posted on 06/07/2024 6:01:24 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Freedom4US

To me, the word “isolationist” means to totally cut off one’s self or one’s country from everything and everyone. That’s not what going on. We still have trade with many countries, including those who we have tense relations with. We can never be “isolationist” as McConnell likes to put it. He’s being disingenuous.


61 posted on 06/07/2024 8:24:40 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: Freedom4US

Very well stated. And WWI was designed and created by the British Empire for over 2 decades before. And to this day they are still pushing for global war.
My grandpa was in WWI and said the British Empire was America’s worst enemy but most people simply have been too propagandized to believe it.


76 posted on 06/07/2024 11:43:40 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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