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To: OKSooner
You can advocate and shill and apologize for the experimental MRNA jab to your heart's content and that's fine with me.

1. By definition, a drug is no longer experimental once it gains FDA approval. The Covid vaccines are fully FDA approved.

2. No drug or clinical trial company can legally give any experimental drug to someone who did not volunteer to be part of a clinical trial and who is not fully consented as to the nature of the trial. Vaccines are a type of drug.

3. Professional antivaxxers have always stuck the word "experimental" in front of "vaccine" solely for the purpose of scaring people. Every single vaccine that exists is experimental for the purposes of professional antivaxxers whose goal is for more people to catch infectious diseases and die prematurely.

Are the MRNA jabs effective against The China Virus?

What, exactly, are you referring to when you say "The China Virus"? Are you referring to the H1N1 that caused a pandemic from 1917-1919? Or maybe H2N2 that caused a pandemic in 1957-1959? Or do you mean any of the other influenzas, like H5N1 or H7N2 which also originated in China? Perhaps you mean SARS-CoV-1, which caused a pandemic in 2003? Or do you mean SARS-CoV-2, which is only the latest in a series of viruses that originated in China?

I'd include the Black Plague that killed a third of Europe's population in the Middle Ages, but that was caused by bacteria, not a virus.

As far as vaccines go, the mRNA vaccine is as effective or even more effective than any influenza vaccine. According to this, COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness, people who received a Covid-19 mRNA vaccine between Sept 2023 and January 2024 were 54% less likely to catch Covid. What that article does not show is the decreased likelihood of serious disease and death; previous Covid-19 vaccines decreased the chance of death by up to 19 fold.

Before you answer, this is a binary question. There are two possible answers that will interest me, and they each are one word.

Don't be ridiculous. There are no black and white answers in medicine. There are only interventions that increase chance of prevention/recovery. There is not a single intervention ever invented that is 100% effective. The professional antivaxxers know this perfectly well; they choose to imply that vaccines are either all or nothing as part of their overall effort to scare people and make them think that vaccines are useless.

You know what other group uses this kind of all or nothing rhetoric? Abortion businesses. They tell young girls that the failure rate of birth control makes it not worth bothering with, because they know that young girls who believe them will skip using birth control and increase abortion profits.

No one uses "all or nothing" rhetoric if they have the patient's health as their primary goal.

My goal is to educate people on the science so that they don't make life-threatening decisions based on charlatan rhetoric.

27 posted on 06/10/2024 7:50:46 AM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: exDemMom
Just another deflection, which I do give you credit for being good at.

You know what The China Virus is, you know what The Jabs are, you know all the true information that RFK brought out into the open in his book/legal brief "The Real Anthony Fauci", and you know which side your own bread is buttered on.

BUT you're unable to answer a simple yes or no question, "is the jab as effective as say, the tetanus vaccine?" in its stated purpose.

So the answer is NO, IT IS NOT, and you know that too. So you deflect and you obfuscate with a waterfall of words

OK, I'm a charlatan.

You're a *** **** liar, doing your part to sell The Jab to innocent people, and you know that too.

Invest it well.

28 posted on 06/10/2024 8:07:15 AM PDT by OKSooner (Divest from New York.)
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