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To: cpdiii
I have no problem with electric cars so long as they are cost competitive with no goverment subsidy

I'm in 100% agreement. And don't get me started on an EV truck's range being severely limited when weighed down (i.e. used for actual pickup chores).


EVs are economic crap. When one considers the battery pack is about 80 percent of a new combustion vehicle the choice is simple.

On this I have to disagree. At least if you include cars (not pickups), the various scenarios people use cars for, and cars not named "Tesla", some of which have cheaper battery replacement costs.

Here are some real world numbers for us. We've put 48K miles in a hair less than 2 years in our EV car (driving it a lot more than our gas pickup). In the past 12 months we drove it 24K miles, with 14K of them charged at home. (Don't even think about an EV unless you can set up charging at home and drive enough home charged miles for the gas savings and oil change savings to be worth the costs that come with an EV.) This means adding 4,191kWh to my power demand (which would have that much to my power bills if I didn't have most of my power provided homemade by solar, but that's another topic). So someone without solar, with my EV, and driving it the same amount and paying the same 16ยข/kWh we pay for Alabama Power, it means adding $56/month to the power bill to drive almost 1,200 miles per month.

Long trips is when it's time to make a decision on if we take the EV car or the gas pickup. If I go by myself or if the trip involves pickup chores: gas pickup. If I go with my wife, who wants to stop every 200 miles for 10-15 minutes anyway and walk around LOL, and if it's on a trip full of many fast chargers, we'll take the EV car. Last year we drove the EV from Alabama to east Canada with nothing but fast charging stops (about 15 minutes each). But the eastern seaboard of the U.S. is densely populated and has many fast chargers. If we were driving through Wyoming or west Texas we'd probably take the gas pickup.

79 posted on 06/01/2024 7:37:00 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

West Texas down IH20 is not an issue with a Tesla or any NACS compatible EV. Tesla has Superchargers every 50 to 100 miles all down IH20 from Ft. Worth, Cisco, Abilene,Sweetwater,Big Spring,Midland, Pecos, Van Horn, then El Paso none is further than 100 miles from the other. I took my Model 3 to Midland only needed 15 min at the SC just east of Abilene to make Midland with SOC to spare once in Midland I L2 charge to 100% the first night in town for a meeting about SWD drilling. I never charged again I took it after four days back to Abilene SC and then right home to North Texas easy peasy I wanted to use the FSD and not a pay 3.89 for diesel didn’t need the truck this trip as it was a in town Midland trip not a rig trip.

For those wanting to look this shows all the Tesla SC as red pins and any 50kw or higher if you filter it.

https://chargefinder.com/us/search


81 posted on 06/01/2024 7:27:31 PM PDT by GenXPolymath
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