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Oliver Eh? (Chase Oliver is the Libertarian Party's nominee for President)
Market Ticker ^ | 28 May 2024 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 05/30/2024 1:00:53 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan

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Karl, an EX-Libertarian, mostly eviscerates what the so-called Libertarians have become.
1 posted on 05/30/2024 1:00:53 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

I have yet to see a change, where is the change since their first being in 1972?


2 posted on 05/30/2024 1:10:14 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

The only Chase I have ever heard of was a Doonesbury character, a homo Republican who hung out with homo Marxist Mark Slackmayer.


3 posted on 05/30/2024 1:16:05 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Consider yourself a queen, consider yourself a flaming candidate...


4 posted on 05/30/2024 1:16:10 PM PDT by Giuseppe Nova (If you absolutely must have an ex-wife in your life, choose wisely.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

The Libertarian Party has also become the “We Hate Cops” party. They readily call anyone that supports police “bootlickers.”


5 posted on 05/30/2024 1:17:29 PM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan; All

Basically, they have evolved or devolved into the Libertine Party!


6 posted on 05/30/2024 1:19:46 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Libertarians are gay.


7 posted on 05/30/2024 1:21:57 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Spot on. Same reasons I have had nothing to do with the LP in over a decade.

Libertarian ideals are fine, logical, and something we should all aspire to.

The Libertarian Party has become something unrecognizable and more than a little... icky.


8 posted on 05/30/2024 1:25:50 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Reily

Exactly. Freedom is good, but comes with consequences. You cannot have one without the other.


9 posted on 05/30/2024 1:26:43 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Reily; Dead Corpse

They have always been the libertine party, they never changed, yet to defend them people keep claiming they changed at some point, which they didn’t.


10 posted on 05/30/2024 1:33:19 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
Your opinion has already been noted and given the just consideration it deserves.


11 posted on 05/30/2024 1:43:27 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse

Trump will swat them like a fly.


12 posted on 05/30/2024 1:46:15 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Who? Chase and current LP? The most they’ve gotten was around 3% Nationally and they won’t even break 1% this time.

Without the Mises wing, the LP will go the way of the Green party and for largely the same reasons.


13 posted on 05/30/2024 1:54:40 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse

Why don’t you just point out that official change that has been made since their founding?

What year was that change that never happened, and on what issues?


14 posted on 05/30/2024 1:56:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Dead Corpse

Agree!


15 posted on 05/30/2024 1:58:20 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Dead Corpse

“”””The most they’ve gotten was around 3% Nationally and they won’t even break 1% this time.””””

Their greatest showing in history was against Trump in 2016, they got 3.3%.

The second greatest showing in history for the LP was against Trump in 2020, they got 1.2%.

The LP’s 3rd greatest showing was against Reagan in 1980, they got 1.1%.


16 posted on 05/30/2024 2:03:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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I grant there was always a “I-want-to-do-what-want-to-do!-What-consequences?” element in the party. In the past they were always balanced out by the Von Mises wing. Of course, the Von Mises wing never seemed to recognize that, that wing was holding them back; damaging their economic arguments by association.

The other problem is Libertarianism always assumes people are rational actors. They’re not!


17 posted on 05/30/2024 2:06:23 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

The party never changed, if you mean they were “balanced” by some members with different personal irrelevant opinions then fine, but the official party positions and goals remained the same.


18 posted on 05/30/2024 2:13:48 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Reily

Libertarians are irrational nut cases, what makes you think they think that other people are rational?

Do you think the LP immigration platform has rational all these decades?


19 posted on 05/30/2024 2:16:15 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Some nut cases mostly immature thinking for the most part.
The Von Mises people assume people are rational actors because that’s a basic academic free market assumption. Why do I think Libertarians assume rational people? Because that’s what they have told me! I didn’t say I agreed with them! They forget they’re not in the academy!


20 posted on 05/30/2024 2:25:58 PM PDT by Reily
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