Posted on 05/29/2024 4:09:11 PM PDT by george76
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I thought this had been tried and declared illegal? ...you can’t challenge an automatic system, there’s no officer. (or something like that)
The town’s not doing it to make money.
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What a pile of crap. Are they donating the money, then?
“The town’s not doing it to make money.”
No, of course not.
They tried it here in Juno Beach years ago (red light cameras too). The state threw out every single ticket and ordered the cameras removed.
“...Tickets are then mailed directly to drivers. ..”
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NO.
Tickets are mailed to the registered owner of the vehicle.
They should mail the ticket to the vehicle, and the vehicle can pay the fine.
The highest court in Missouri struck down red light camera and speed camera programs.
In three separate cases, the high court judges found that the cameras unconstitutionally shifted the burden of proof by forcing ticket recipients to prove their own innocence. The judges also found that the creation of “civil” citations and administrative hearings for moving traffic violations violated state law.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3326630/posts
There was a radar speed trap in north Scottsdale.
Residents got it removed.
They are doing it to generate revenue for the town.
Something like that. You can’t cross examine the witness. You can’t subpoena the device to inspect its calibration. Lots of due process issues involved. But that doesn’t stop the state. They take cash and cars from people all the time. “Prove to us where this $5000 came from and we’ll give it back”.
The FBI recently had to give back a ton of stuff after it raided a privately run safe deposit box in Beverly Hills. They had probably cause that some of the boxes might have had illicit proceeds but then proceeded to just open them willy nilly and impound everything in the vault regardless of who the box was registered to.
As of recently, new state law says if a municipality mails a ticket, you have been served and must pay or appear. You don't have to recieve it, they just have to mail it. Pretty clever right?
Paying for illegals ain’t cheap.
True, but Scottsdale still utilizes the vans equipped with speed cameras.
I got a parking ticket in Tiberius, Israel several years ago while visiting the Sea of Galilea. They sent the ticket to the car rental agency long after I returned home. The rental agency kept sending me a bill in the mail. Maybe if I ever go back there, they will stop me at the airport? I didn’t render unto Caesar.
Cameras should be unconstitutional. How do you confront your accuser in court? How do you explain, identify witnesses, or in any way defend yourself when you get a ticket in the mail weeks or months later? You cannot, thus you are denied due process.
10,000 pictures of cars going over the limit and ZERO accidents.
If this were a scientific experiment, you could only conclude that the speed that the vehicles were traveling was perfectly SAFE for that road.
(”The town’s not doing it to make money”)
Oh, of course not.
Just like every speed trap. 🚓🚓🚔🚔
I have a radar detector and try to watch carefully.
Still somebody ran up on my tail.
Don’t know why I hit the gas pedal I never do that. But...I did that time.
Boom! 42 mph. Thought it was 35 but no, the carefully-designed speed trap was 30.
On a highway, linking towns at least 15-20-40 miles apart.
“”The camera is permanently stationed at Bear Creek Avenue and Mount Vernon Avenue.””
For now...
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