Ukraine: Russian Forces Executed Surrendering Ukraine Soldiers

Human Rights Watch ^ | 2 May 2024 | Human Rights Watch

[Robert DeLong]

Had to read it you wouldn't need to ask the question. However, I will answer the question. It was the threat of Ukraine becoming a NATO member nation. Putin clearly stated in 2008 that Georgia & Ukraine were red lines as far as Putin was concerned regarding Russia's national security. He didn't mince words. He made his intentions quite clear. There was no need for us to poke the bear with NATO expansion into either of those nations. It accomplishes nothing. We had already placed nuclear weapons in Turkey, so it wasn't as if he didn't justification from keeping them from being able to set up nuclear weapons along Russia's border.

It was no different than when Nikita tried to put nuclear weapons in Cuba in the early 60s.

[Svartalfiar]

Ukraine becoming a member of NATO is not a threat to Russian security, unless Russia was planning to invade anyway. Telling the schoolyard bully you want to be friends with the other bully isn’t a valid excuse for him to beat you up.

If we do whatever Russia wants just because Putin makes some threats, what’s the point of having our own countries? Just because you warn the cops you’re gonna rob the bank, doesn’t make robbing the bank no longer a crime!

No different than Cuba? I don’t recall us annexing half the country only because we couldn’t successfully invade the other half.

[Robert DeLong]

Well, apparently you do not know where Gitmo is located then, or how it was obtained.

The United States took possession of Guantánamo Bay through the end of the Spanish-American War and the Platt Amendment. The Platt Amendment was initiated in 1903 and outlined seven conditions for the U.S. withdrawal from Cuba. The United States intervened at the end of the Spanish-American War, taking credit for Cuban independence from Spain.

Platt Amendment, rider appended to the U.S. Army appropriations bill of March 1901, stipulating the conditions for withdrawal of U.S. troops remaining in Cuba since the Spanish-American War and molding fundamental Cuban-U.S. relations until 1934. Formulated by the secretary of war, Elihu Root, the amendment was presented to the Senate by Sen. Orville H. Platt of Connecticut.

By its terms, Cuba would not transfer Cuban land to any power other than the United States, Cuba’s right to negotiate treaties was limited, rights to a naval base in Cuba (Guantánamo Bay) were ceded to the United States, U.S. intervention in Cuba “for the preservation of Cuban independence” was permitted, and a formal treaty detailing all the foregoing provisions was provided for. To end the U.S. occupation, Cuba incorporated the articles in its 1901 constitution. In 1902 the United States withdrew its troops, and Cuba became a republic. Although the United States intervened militarily in Cuba only twice, in 1906 and 1912, Cubans generally considered the amendment an infringement of their sovereignty. In 1934, as part of his Good Neighbor policy, Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt supported abrogation of the amendment’s provisions except for U.S. rights to the naval base under Article VII:

To enable the United States to maintain the independence of Cuba, and to protect the people thereof, as well as for its own defense, the government of Cuba will sell or lease to the United States lands necessary for coaling or naval stations, at certain specified points, to be agreed upon with the President of the United States.

We are still there more than 120 years later.