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To: Chad C. Mulligan

The issue is strategic. Should the United States be entangled in wars across the planet? Is it the obligation of the American taxpayer to defend Ukraine and the European Union nations? If so, what is the justification?

The founding fathers were very clear on this issue. George Washington, in his farewell address, warned future generations not to get entangled in foreign alliances and specifically not to get involved in European wars. The founders, in the Constitution, did not give the president the power to involve the country in foreign wars. That power resides with Congress and since WWII the requirement that Congress declare war has been usurped unconstitutionally by several occupants of the White House. As a result nearly 100,000 US soldiers have been killed in unconstitutional wars since 1945 and trillions of US taxpayer money has been spent. What do we have to show for this shedding of blood and expense tot the taxpayer?

Meanwhile, those same presidents, and Congress, have refused to defend the US borders from actual invasions of the homeland in which millions of people have resettled inside the homeland. As a result US citizens are actually being killed in the thousands every year by these illegal invaders, social services are overwhelmed in many localities, and many lives are begin destroyed by a fentanyl epidemic resulting from criminal cartels operating across the border.

If this invasion of the homeland continues, the social fabric, and economy of the United States will collapse. Anyone with common sense, eyes, and a brain can see evidence of the destruction of the country daily. This is not “Putin propaganda” or “Russian disinformation”. This is reality. This is the most important issue facing we the people.

Oh but if Putin gets his way in Ukraine, Russia will take over Europe. The dominoes will fall! Well, we heard the same message in the 1960’s from President Johnson and the foreign policy establishment. By 1974 the same bureaucrats and politicians who put us through the Vietnam War decide to cut and run from Vietnam. The dominoes did not fall.

As for saving Western Europe from the Russians, Western Europe has already chosen its fate. The Western European nations will be Islamic states by 2050. It is a demographic destiny. Look at London today to see where the EU and Great Britain will be by 2050.

If the United States continues on its current path, it will not matter to our grandchildren and great grandchildren if Russia conquers Ukraine or Iran conquers Israel. Our nation is collapsing from bad policies and lawlessness. Pouring billions into Ukraine and Israel will only make the economic day of reckoning for the US, and the accompanying collapse, come faster.

Ukraine is a dictatorship. Zelensky has banned political opposition and elections. The press is heavily censored. Religion is oppressed. I hear the pro Ukraine voices say Putin is an evil dictator and he must be stopped. Why should the United States be supporting one tyrannical government in a fight with another? If Ukraine is so critical to Europe, the wealthy European nations should gladly pony up the billions needed to prop up the dictator in Ukraine and even shed the blood of their youth. This isn’t our fight any more than involving ourselves in a civil war in Vietnam was our fight in the 1960’s. Our fight is along the borders of the lower 48 state and we are not dealing with it.


9 posted on 04/14/2024 4:42:46 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it n)
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To: Soul of the South

“Pouring billions into Ukraine and Israel will only make the economic day of reckoning for the US, and the accompanying collapse, come faster.”

You have that right. My #1 concern by now....by far ..... is the invasion at our southern border. My #1 question is WHY nothing is being done about it.


16 posted on 04/14/2024 5:16:30 AM PDT by xenia ( “The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it” George Orwell)
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To: Soul of the South; aMorePerfectUnion

Great post, and a ping.


18 posted on 04/14/2024 5:19:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Soul of the South

YOU NAILED THIS!!!!
Michael McCaul is our representative. A young man with a family opposed him in the primary, just to give us a choice. He was out spent but got his name out for the future.

Michael, IF WE ARE SO WRONG IN OUR ANALYSIS of where we are in America and throwing trillions we don’t have for losing life and wars across the globe, help us understand where we are not getting the right information!!!

May 2024 wake us up so shockingly that we have to return to God-Family-Country and live with Biblical values, morals and ethics. May we know God’s government vs. Satan’s as our spirits KNOW which is good and which is evil.


27 posted on 04/14/2024 5:40:28 AM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl ( )
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To: Soul of the South

Excellent post!


30 posted on 04/14/2024 5:57:38 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Soul of the South

Excellent analysis!!


32 posted on 04/14/2024 6:00:43 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Soul of the South

Brilliant! You hit all the top Ruzzian talking points in a single essay!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics


33 posted on 04/14/2024 6:22:23 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Soul of the South

*** Is it the obligation of the American taxpayer to defend Ukraine***

The USA made security guarantees in the Budapest Memorandum of 1994 to Ukraine in exchange for the latter giving up all its nuclear weapons. Yes, I know that idiot Clinton did it and it wasn’t put through Congress, but it seems rather unethical just to hang the Ukrainians out to dry (for want of munitions) after Russia treacherously invaded them.

***George Washington, in his farewell address, warned future generations not to get entangled in foreign alliances and specifically not to get involved in European wars.***

The world has changed a lot since then. We have these things called ICBMs, SLBMs and thermonuclear weapons. Maybe, you’ve heard of them?

The Russians have enough nuclear firepower to turn the continental USA into a smoking pile of ashes. Isolationism just won’t work in this day-and-age. The best way to stop Russia throwing its weight around is for the West (working together) to sanction it, help the countries it attacks fight it off (thus weakening it militarily) and build a powerful defence force to deter it. Eventually, the Russian people will get sick of living in poverty and misery and overthrow the psychotic sadists who are in charge there.

***As a result nearly 100,000 US soldiers have been killed in unconstitutional wars since 1945 and trillions of US taxpayer money has been spent***

I remember back in 2002 posters on here were organising pro-war rallies in the lead up to the invasion of Iraq. “Give war a chance” was one of the slogans back then. I guess the political pendulum in the US has swung the other way now.

***Meanwhile, those same presidents, and Congress, have refused to defend the US borders from actual invasions of the homeland in which millions of people have resettled inside the homeland.***

Trump said he would build a wall along the Mexican border. He even said Mexico would pay for it. How did that go?

***Oh but if Putin gets his way in Ukraine, Russia will take over Europe.***

If Ukraine falls then Russia will be straight into neighbouring Moldova, that’s for sure. After succeeding there (with no NATO resistance) he may hit Lithuania next to link up Belarus (Russian ally) with Kaliningrad Oblast (Russian strategic military asset on the Baltic). This could not be ignored by NATO (at least its European members) and would result in a major war.

***Western Europe has already chosen its fate. The Western European nations will be Islamic states by 2050. It is a demographic destiny. Look at London today to see where the EU and Great Britain will be by 2050.***

At the last UK Census (in 2021) 6.5% of the UK was muslim. Even if that doubled in the next 20 years, it’s still a small minority. They certainly won’t be a majority by 2050. Also, British-born muslims are hardly a hostile invading foreign force (like Russia). They are typically much more liberal than their first generation immigrant parents.

***Ukraine is a dictatorship. Zelensky has banned political opposition and elections.***

No, Ukraine is not a dictatorship. All democratic countries postpone elections during major wars where their national survival is at risk. During World War 2 Britain did not have a General Election and it was never invaded by ground forces (unlike Ukraine which is fighting an invader on its own territory).

Political opposition (which is in favour of the enemy) is always suppressed during a major war in a democracy. To do otherwise would be to invite one’s own destruction.

***The press is heavily censored. Religion is oppressed.***

Yes, during a war for national survival there is censorship of the media. We had that in the UK during the World Wars too.

The Russian Orthodox Church has come out solidly behind Putin so you can understand the Ukrainians being very wary of its influence there.

***I hear the pro Ukraine voices say Putin is an evil dictator and he must be stopped.***

Putin is a murdering gangster. Have you forgotten about Bucha, Irpin and Mariupol? Forgotten about Politkovskaya, Litvinenko and Nemtsov? Already forgotten about Navalny?

***If Ukraine is so critical to Europe, the wealthy European nations should gladly pony up the billions needed to prop up the dictator in Ukraine and even shed the blood of their youth.***

They are pouring billions into Ukraine. No one is talking about NATO forces engaging Russia militarily in Ukraine. We are trying to arm Ukraine enough so they can, at least, halt Russia’s advance and then defend a fortified border against it with a view to securing fair ceasefire terms. But Ukraine needs financial support and munitions to do that. It cannot negotiate a Korean War style ceasefire/DMZ situation from a position of weakness.

I think the $300 billion in Russian assets frozen in Europe, the USA and Japan, should be released to support Ukraine’s war effort. (More money than that would be due to Ukraine as war reparations from Russia if there was any chance of making Russia pay out in the future.)

***This isn’t our fight any more than involving ourselves in a civil war in Vietnam was our fight in the 1960’s.***

You decided to get involved in that war on your own. The British government advised you against doing it. Now the whole of free Europe is telling you that Russia is big trouble and needs its wings clipping. Maybe it might be time to listen to them for a change.


56 posted on 04/15/2024 1:34:52 PM PDT by David Hunter
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