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To: SeekAndFind
I gather you prefer secession to preserving the United States of America.

I agree with the Founding Fathers who created a VOLUNTARY union of sovereign states based on CONSENT. I gather you disagree with them.

66 posted on 04/13/2024 1:42:09 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

RE: I gather you disagree with them.

I don’t exactly disagree, but the question of whether it was worth seceding and dissolving the USA vs fighting a war to preserve it is a complex one.

The first question I need an answer to is this — Was there a referendum in each of the southern states asking citizens of these states if they really want to secede?

Ultimately, whether the Civil War was worth the cost is a matter of historical interpretation and individual values. Here are some additional factors to consider:

The Potential Spread of Slavery: Without the war, slavery might have continued to expand and become more entrenched in the South.

The Impact on Democracy: Allowing secession could have set a dangerous precedent, potentially leading to the fracturing of the nation along other lines in the future. The precedent set would have probably eventually created individual countries like the Republic of New Jersey or the Republic of Massachusetts, etc. depending on the prevailing popular sentiments.

I’m not sure that this is what the framers of our constitution had in mind for the United States of America.

I just want to find out if the Union we still call the United States of America is in danger of dissolving anytime soon. There are several people who think like you that I’ve encountered, even in FR.

My gut feeling is TODAY at least, despite the corruption and increasing intrusion of Washington DC on the affairs of the states, the sentiment for secession is not as strong as it was in the 1860s.

What I do believe is , like the peaceful division of Czechoslovakia or the near division of Spain and Catalonia, or the near secession of Quebec from Canada, the separation of ANY state in the union should be done via PEACEFUL and VOLUNTARY referendum instead of by force.

I think this was what the founders had in mind. The best evidence of that is the VOLUNTARY joining of each state to the union.


69 posted on 04/13/2024 3:09:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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