Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Missouri death row inmate executed despite widespread calls for clemency
The Guardian ^

Posted on 04/09/2024 9:26:00 PM PDT by TheDon

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-56 last
To: Jaysin

“the death penalty is not a preventive measure nor should it be treated as such.”

Be sure to qualify this statement as executed murderers are prevented from further murders. This is a primary reason to carry out the sentence swiftly.


41 posted on 04/10/2024 5:51:12 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers! Remember the J6 political prisoners!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: LeonardFMason

Quite so.


42 posted on 04/10/2024 5:51:43 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers! Remember the J6 political prisoners!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Lurker

“Life without parole” is a meaningless sentence. As you pointed out it actually says nothing about how long someone will be behind bars. They want to let them out, they will, they just won’t use the word “parole”. Last time I was on a jury in Texas we found out “life” meant 10 years. And a 40 year sentence actually translated to 5 years behind bars. The justice system lies freely to juries during sentencing in Texas.

And no executed criminal has ever committed another crime. Lots of “life without parole” criminals continue committing crimes after a brief pause when they are incarcerated.


43 posted on 04/10/2024 5:53:28 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: hopespringseternal

Agreed. Convicted murderers should be executed forthwith.


44 posted on 04/10/2024 5:56:45 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers! Remember the J6 political prisoners!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: A strike

It deterred the dead guy! Brilliant point!

The implication is that it deters society from committing murder.

Yet murderers in St Louis will still be murdering folks and won’t think twice about it this morning.


45 posted on 04/10/2024 6:59:43 AM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: LeonardFMason

“How about it is a 100% effective deterrent”

Murder stopped overnight in Missouri?

How about 100% effective actually meaning 100% effective?

I appreciate the earth is round content while completely ignoring that it doesn’t deter society at large in the slightest.

But hey the dead guy is deterred!

It insures life without parole plea agreements. Whereas in blue states the same murderers plea to life with parole and eventually freed. In that regard it is 100% effective.


46 posted on 04/10/2024 7:05:11 AM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Freest Republican

It deters the dead. Noooo... do not truncate the ACLU abusive ACLU process, end the death penalty instead.


47 posted on 04/10/2024 7:08:53 AM PDT by alstewartfan (Child slavery, rape and drug OD's mean nothing to Roberts and Barrett. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Freest Republican

If they knew that by committing murder, they may well be dead within a few months, SOME would not do the dirty deed.


48 posted on 04/10/2024 7:11:10 AM PDT by alstewartfan (Child slavery, rape and drug OD's mean nothing to Roberts and Barrett. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: hopespringseternal

and even plenty more life with parole commit crimes.

It is not nearly as meaningless as the notion that the death penalty deters other murderers.

I get the confusion though-life without parole is really a temporary vacation somewhere in lala land.

Next time I’ll mix in a bunch of anecdotal, emotive bs to make my reply more appealing.


49 posted on 04/10/2024 7:12:50 AM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: alstewartfan

Yea killers all over Missouri woke up this morning with second thoughts. Also, criminals abide by gun laws in the land of stuff that just is not true.

I am pro death penalty, a real card carrying member of the ACLU.


50 posted on 04/10/2024 7:16:51 AM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: TheDon
From the article:

He also had his final meal served to him, which included two bacon double cheeseburgers, two orders of chicken strips, two large orders of fries, and a pizza with sausage, pepperoni, onion, mushrooms and extra cheese, according to the state department of corrections.

Geez, are they sure that he just didn't spontaneously die from clogged arteries?

51 posted on 04/10/2024 7:20:18 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Think of it as evolution in action. [Oath of Fealty - Pournelle and Niven])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Freest Republican

That’s because it’s not used.


52 posted on 04/10/2024 7:20:44 AM PDT by A strike (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by 'climate change')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Freest Republican

You sounded in your post that you were a DP abolitionist. Sorry for the misunderstanding. If all these death row fiends were alerted that they would be visiting Old Sparky within a week, yes, they would have second thoughts.


53 posted on 04/10/2024 7:30:36 AM PDT by alstewartfan (Child slavery, rape and drug OD's mean nothing to Roberts and Barrett. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: Freest Republican

“But hey the dead guy is deterred!”

“Murder stopped overnight in Missouri?” YES. The chance this fiend will kill again is now 0%. 100% deterred.

The “no deterrence” argument is the cudgel that LIBERALS use to eliminate the death penalty altogether.

Could you Guarantee this killer would never murder a couple and rape a dead corpse if he lived? Of course not.

I can 100% GUARANTEE with his execution that he will NEVER do it again.

COMPLETELY effective deterrence.


54 posted on 04/10/2024 8:52:37 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: albie

Now that what I would order for my last meal before my execution!! Though I would have included fried fish and left off the two large French fries.


55 posted on 04/10/2024 9:00:48 AM PDT by dennisw (Why is the rabbit unafraid? Because he's smarter than the panther.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Freest Republican

There are really two cases, “life” sentences that aren’t and the death penalty.

When you produce a dead criminal that is still committing crimes you will have a point.


56 posted on 04/10/2024 10:14:29 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-56 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson