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John Quincy Adams and His ‘Essay On Turks’-Should be required reading in courses on American history
Frontpagemagazine ^ | March 25, 2024 | Hugh Fitzgerald

Posted on 03/25/2024 6:44:23 AM PDT by SJackson

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21 posted on 03/25/2024 4:37:21 PM PDT by Bratch
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Son of an Abigail


22 posted on 03/25/2024 5:00:21 PM PDT by Degaston
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To: SJackson; ProgressingAmerica
I've seeing references to this essay for several years and also wondered about the authenticity of the JQ Adams attribution. This time I've found and am chasing some breadcrumbs regarding that! Your link to the Annual Register does offer a download option, claiming both epub and pdf version. The epub option turned out blank, but I could download an 806 page pdf. Alas it had no OCR layer, but after some effort I managed to OCR the file, although not ideally. The quotes come from Chapter X (starting on page 273 of my PDF although internally numbered 267), "Russia" and read as one long essay, divided into subsections, the first of which was listed as "Christianity contrasted with Islamism" and runs about 4 pages. The chapter ends of page 291 (internal page 285). Bill Federer's American Minute referred to this back in 2018. He wrote:
The annotated "John Quincy Adams – A Bibliography," compiled by Lynn H. Parsons (Westport, CT, 1993, p. 41, entry #194), contains "Unsigned essays dealing with the Russo-Turkish War and on Greece," published in The American Annual Register for 1827-28-29 (NY: 1830)
"Unsigned" essays would explain the lack of formal attribution if the Parson's claim can be confirmed. I found a used copy on Amazon, ordered it, and will try to report back here when able. If confirmed I could post either the four page first part or the entire 18 page chapter as a pdf - if I can refigure out how. My old ways of posting files online to link for FR no longer seem to work. Or I could try to just paste the text here, if I can get OCR to work better. With my current OCR results that would be difficult. But it would be nice, if this is genuine JQ Adams, to have the full text available online. With 1830 original publication there shouldn't be copyright concerns and I presume FR could handle the four page or even the eighteen page, post of paragraphed text.
23 posted on 03/26/2024 8:03:49 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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To: SJackson

Thanks. bookmark for later


24 posted on 03/26/2024 8:07:52 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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25 posted on 03/26/2024 8:16:59 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (TH)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

That is a very interesting thing you did, I look forward to hearing from you as to if you have better results with the printed copy.


26 posted on 03/27/2024 8:39:44 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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To: Deaf Smith

It was Keith Ellison who was sworn in on that Quran, not Obama.


27 posted on 03/29/2024 8:33:27 PM PDT by Jacob Kell ("Moderate Islamists do not exist...it's like saying a moderate nazi")
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Your reply was not exact.

It was Thomas Jefferson's copy of the Quran and it was Hussein Obama.

All sources now are leftist sites and say it was Lincoln's & MLK’s Bibles for the two swearing-in (revisionist history).

Just like the world found out Obama's correct name is Hussein when he was sworn, after a year of the msm covering it up.

*The msm made a big deal about using Jefferson's copy of the Quran, omitting the history of why Jefferson had a copy of it.

28 posted on 03/29/2024 9:15:45 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Deaf Smith

Where did you hear that?


29 posted on 03/30/2024 9:20:11 PM PDT by Jacob Kell ("Moderate Islamists do not exist...it's like saying a moderate nazi")
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To: JohnBovenmyer; SJackson; ProgressingAmerica
https://ia801302.us.archive.org/4/items/p1americanannual29blunuoft/p1americanannual29blunuoft.pdf

(Blunt, 1830, 29:267, Ch. X, Russia).

Chapter X, pp. 267-285. Quote begins on pg. 269. The OCR appears to be perfect and searchable.

In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust, by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition ofthe female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.

[snip]


30 posted on 03/30/2024 10:36:19 PM PDT by woodpusher
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It was Keith Ellison who was sworn in on that Quran, not Obama.

It was Keith Ellison who was sworn in on a copy of the Quran once owned by Thomas Jefferson, borrowed from the Library of Congress for the occasion. And, of course, Obama is Barack Hussein Obama, Hussein being his middle name. That was known before the election as it appeared on the Certification of Live Birth in Hawaii, posted online in June 2008.

31 posted on 03/30/2024 10:54:46 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher; JohnBovenmyer; ProgressingAmerica

Thanks for the efforts. One would think in such a digitalized age an essay by Adams would be accessible somewhere, if a paper copy, I presume these were published, exists.


32 posted on 03/31/2024 4:37:18 AM PDT by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed, Stanislaw Jerzy Lec)
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To: woodpusher; JohnBovenmyer; SJackson

Nothing on page 269 of this PDF says the word “Adams”, “J. Q. Adams”, “Q. A.”, or any variation thereof. To indicate certain authorship, to be clear. Your quote does not state “authored by”. I pressed CTRL + F - I searched what you provided, it isn’t there. It’s missing.

Neither does page 268. It isn’t there. It’s missing. Neither does page 267, which is the beginning page of that chapter. Neither does page 285, the last page of that chapter where you might expect to see footnotes.

The Table of Contents says nothing about guest contributions. There doesn’t seem to be anything at the back of the provided PDF book at all. It isn’t there, it isn’t anywhere. It’s missing.

If Adams did write this, this PDF does not appear to be offering any evidence at all that he did.

And like I said, I’d like to read it too. It is not a long work, judging by the variants available online. This kind of thing is exactly why I do readings, to enhance visibility. This is exactly the kind of item I’d like to get out there.


33 posted on 03/31/2024 7:37:22 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
>If Adams did write this, this PDF does not appear to be offering any evidence at all that he did.

Allegedly JQA wrote it as an "unsigned" essay so I wouldn't expect his name there. Evidence of his authorship must come from elsewhere. I await delivery of the work allegedly claiming its JQA to see what evidence may exist there.

34 posted on 03/31/2024 10:10:36 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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To: SJackson

I still remember my shock when I read the Koran decades ago.


35 posted on 03/31/2024 10:11:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SJackson; JohnBovenmyer; ProgressingAmerica
One would think in such a digitalized age an essay by Adams would be accessible somewhere, if a paper copy, I presume these were published, exists.

The following excerpt from J Q Adams diary may suggest the chapters by Adams were published anonymously in the Annual Register, and that is the original paper publication.

https://www.masshist.org/publications/jqadiaries/index.php/document/jqadiaries-v36-1830-04-09-p414#sn=491

JQA Diary, volume 36
9 April 1830

9. IV. Good Friday.

Condict Lewis
Thomas.
Elliott. Jonathan

[...]

I received from Joseph Blunt a Letter, and three half-sheets of Letter-press, being the last of my chapters upon Russia, Turkey and Greece for the American Annual Register—I revised them and answered Blunt’s Letter—There are three ridiculous errors of the Press on the last page, which I asked to have corrected


36 posted on 03/31/2024 1:50:11 PM PDT by woodpusher
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That certainly carries a bit of weight.

While it does narrow it down to possible six chapters about those three countries in that Register: 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, and 15. Q specifically says “chapters”, so at least two of them are his.

The timing is also strong. The register is for 1827/1828/1829, and his letter is dated the following year, 1830.

Is there more?

I mean, its solid to me. I’m convinced. But that won’t convince everybody. There is a shadow of a doubt that remains. Did he only write two or three of those six? Five of the six?

Unfortunately, with conservatives not willing to go into the historical field over the decades this is the situation we’re forced to deal with and be trapped in. We’ve let the progressives win. I’m hoping the work I do will help lay the groundwork to change that in the future, but we’re talking decades here. First we have to get rid of the unwillingness and that’s not going away any time soon.


37 posted on 03/31/2024 2:51:09 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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To: SJackson

Fascinating article on a forgotten giant of the early history of the Republic.


38 posted on 04/01/2024 10:18:42 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Is there more?

There is some more that may be useful to your research. For what it is worth, here it is.

https://www.masshist.org/publications/jqadiaries/index.php/document/jqadiaries-v36-1830-03-05-p385#sn=484

JQA Diary, volume 36
5 March 1830
5. V. Friday.—Sun rose 6:

Clements.
Bartlett
Wool—General
White Joseph M

Returned from my walk to see the Sun rise. Mr Clements and Mr Bartlett are workmen upon the Canal, one from Maine, the other from New-Hampshire who came to see me, merely from curiosity—Clements said he was going to the State of Ohio, and Bartlett that he should return home. General Wool, was ordered here as a member of the Court-Martial, now sitting for the trial of Coll Roger Jones the Adjutant General; but he told me he had come too late—Mr White of Florida, called for his wife’s Album; but I had neglected to write in it as she had requested; and was obliged to ask him to call again—We received the American Quarterly Review, in which there is an Article upon Russia and Turkey, and one upon Mohammedan History, both full of information, upon the subject which now occupies me—The first is a historical review of the eight Wars between Russia and Turkey which preceded the last. There is in this review, reference made to at least thirty authors, French, English, German, Italian and Russian, to scarcely one of which I can have access—The writer appears to be familiar with them all—Karamsin’s History of Russia, and Von Hammer’s German History of the Ottoman Empire are works new to me—He says that Von Hammer is the most eminent Oriental Scholar that has ever appeared in Germany, and except Sylvestre de Sacy, has no rival in Europe—There is a short abstract of the causes and issue of every War between Russia and Turkey, from the first in 1569. to the eighth from 1807 to 1812—an animated account of the establishment of the House of Romanoff upon the throne of the Czars, in 1613. a rapid sketch of the character of Alexis, father of Peter the Great; and some dramatic touches of the History of Peter himself. A Satirical attack upon the Austrian Government for ingratitude to Prince Eugene, whom he calls the modest and valiant Eugene. This person is no favourite of mine—He was a Coriolanus—A Frenchman; born a Subject of Louis 14. bred to the Church, and after being in Ecclesiastical orders; deserting his Country, and going over to the Sovereign of Austria, because he could not obtain of the Government of Louis 14 a Commission as Commander of a Troop of horse. For this he invaded his Country and fought numbers of bloody battles against her— He went over to England too to raise a riot against the Tories, with the Duke of Malborough— There are other things too much against this same Prince in despite of his high reputation—The Article on Mahommed is not equal to the first, but has much information—The author Professes acquaintance with the Oriental Languages, and gives a severe criticism upon the Koran.

While he speaks here of the author in the third person, he may just have wanted to keep his authorship anonymous. He was not long out of office as President.

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-4606529

ADAMS, John Quincy. Autograph letter signed ("J. Q. Adams") to Joseph Blunt, editor of the American Annual Register, Washington, 9 April 1830. 2 full pages, 4to. In very fine condition.

A previous diary entry mentioned corrections to the unsigned chapters sent to Blunt. This details those corrections.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40371517

It was with a great deal of pride that Robert Walsh, who edited simultaneously the Philadelphia National Gazette and Literary Register and the American Quarterly Review between 1827 and 1836, revealed in his newspaper the following distinguished writers who had contributed to his quarterly prior to 1835:

Messrs. John Q. Adams, ....

Cites to the below for a Robert Walsh editorial where Walsh named various authors of unsigned matter that was published in the AQR. It is not clear if Walsh listed the specific articles by specific author, or merely related that they had contributed material. I have not found that editorial page. Of the listed authors, John Q. Adams is the first. If the editorial can be found, it may provide the provenance you seek.

The National Gazette and Literary Register, January 28, 1835, p. 2, col. 2. editorial by Robert Walsh

39 posted on 04/01/2024 5:06:21 PM PDT by woodpusher
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