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If it happened out of the blue, the federal government would cease to exist, but if it happened after even a relatively short escalation, the key people would be evacuated to safer locations and the nuclear strike would have little strategic value and a predictable consequence of destructive retaliation against (apparent) perpetrators.

I would imagine there are protocols to start evacuating key people in situations where tensions were rising. I don’t know if it has ever taken place (other than George W. Bush being prevented from returning to DC after 9-11), possibly in the 1962 Cuban missile crisis?

I don’t think it’s a secret that there are deep underground bunkers in the mountains near VA-WV border equipped for long-term residency and functioning of the U.S. government. A president would likely declare martial law and if not much of Congress survived, that president would probably rule by decree, or at least try to do so, quite possibly some states would declare it invalid and their state governments would be the recognized authorities, it would depend on the political situation before any such eventuality.

I cannot imagine a situation where a nuclear attack was limited to one location, anyone doing that would be inviting a massive retaliation, so the macabre logic of the situation is that a first strike should be massive to do as much as possible to reduce retaliation. Or, if the intent is nuclear blackmail (as in “do our will or more will come”) then to try that approach it would make sense to pick a symbolic target to demonstrate capability and intent, without raising the anger level to an automatic response. For example, if a hostile power with a desire to force a response wanted to make a point, they could say “in 24 hours, we will detonate a nuclear weapon at these co-ordinates (in remote unpopulated area like one finds in parts of interior west), give time for the very few inhabitants to leave, close access, then set it off and start the blackmail.

I don’t suppose the above would ever happen because there is no point, a nuclear power can start blackmail by just saying it is “on” without demonstrating what we already know, that they can set off a bomb. We as civilians cannot be entirely sure this has never happened, but our side could do it also, and perhaps we already have. Who’s to say that China is not on notice to stay out of Taiwan “or else x y and z will happen.” And that could have been U.S. policy since any year since 1960. Of course such a policy could be less than formal, it could have been communicated informally by any U.S. administration since late Eisenhower. Same goes with Russia (formerly USSR), they may well have been told, not just left to surmise, that appearance of Russian troops beyond stated borders would have predictable consequences.

Who knows, Russia today may have been told at some point after 2014, don’t cross the Dneiper, we will look the other way for Crimea and east Ukraine, or pretend to be angry, but if you cross the Dneiper (or come past a certain line in north Ukraine), it means all out war. There would be no particular reason to tell anyone about it, but it would explain why Zelensky persists. It would also explain why Russia never made much of a push towards Kyiv.

If I were at the NY Post, I would be more concerned about a nuclear strike on NYC than DC. But I would guess that both would be targets at the same time.


116 posted on 03/23/2024 9:56:57 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (You don't have to like rainbow crosswalks to know a thug when you see one. )
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“Of course such a policy could be less than formal, it could have been communicated informally by any U.S. administration since late Eisenhower. Same goes with Russia (formerly USSR), they may well have been told, not just left to surmise, that appearance of Russian troops beyond stated borders would have predictable consequences.”

Nixon told the story of how it was important for the leaders of the world to know each other. Even more important between enemies.

He told the story of Brezhnev(?) telling him that he would move Soviet troops into some valley just outside of Israel, and then Nixon would need to move our troops in. Nixon said that was a terrible idea having enemy troops in such close proximity - just waiting for an incident/accident to happen.

So he told Brezhnev that the USA had other options available to us if necessary.

“Now, Brezhnev might have thought that I was bluffing, but he knew me, and I knew him. He didn’t send his troops.”

Whether Nixon was telling a made-up story I have no idea. But it does sound plausible. Nixon made it sound like he spoke often with Brezhnev and others.

I did hear Nixon in an interview say that he would NEVER say that some sort of military option would NOT be used in some situation.


117 posted on 03/23/2024 10:17:06 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

excellent reasoned post...there is still hope for Freepr,ha


134 posted on 03/24/2024 5:57:25 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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