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To: canuck_conservative; Allegra
From my perspective, I'd much prefer that most (not all) of the money directed to Ukraine go instead to help our veterans and secure our southern border. To the latter, the fentanyl runners and coyotegangs are violating that border at unacceptable levels.

We should never have entered the conflict in the Ukraine in the first place. I understand the desire to stop Russian transgression, and to some extent I agree, but because the Ukraine directly borders Russia, I get why Russia is flipping out about our involvement. We had the same reaction, in the 1960’s, over Cuba.

Nonetheless, in what I consider a gross error in judgement, we are involved now. I don't think we can completely cut off aid, and there is a bittersweet fact that has been realized from our actions: Russia is a paper tiger, a military that has been hollowed out by corruption and negligence.

This is a bittersweet realization because, while it comforts the West — we now know we can easily defeat them — it also encourages China to act against Russia in the future. Siberia is a very attractive prize to seize, rich in resources, should China decide to act in the future.

27 posted on 03/11/2024 5:41:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Laz 2005: "First, we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.")
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To: Lazamataz
Russia is a paper tiger, a military that has been hollowed out by corruption and negligence.

Russia is beating the brakes off NATO and its proxies in Ukraine...the notion that the West can beat them easily gets debunked each time another Abrams/ Patriot/ HIMARS gets destroyed.

If there is a paper tiger in this fight, its the Europeans.

57 posted on 03/11/2024 6:38:20 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Lazamataz
I will make a correction to your post. Russia was a paper tiger. The war has made their military much bigger and stronger than it was. I think the war exposed NATO as the paper tiger. They can't produce the weapons Ukraine needs to even come close to Russian production. Artillery shells and the guns to shoot them don't exist and can't be produced by the West. It also exposed some of our weapons as not as good as advertised. I just watched a video of an updated T-72 knock out and Abrams tank with one shot from 3 kilometers away. Biden and his corrupt clown posse will use the republican opposition to the $61 billion as an excuse for the Ukrainians losing the war. The fact is they would lose the war no matter how much money we give them. Money doesn't win wars. Men and weapons systems win them
79 posted on 03/11/2024 8:12:24 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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