In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled CDC finally admits COVID can be treated like the flu, DugwayDuke wrote: EEGator wrote: “If you admit the variants, then you admit the vaccine was never a cure.”
DD: Vaccines have never been a cure.
ransomnote: The Covid 'vaccine' is not a vaccine. The FTC filing stated that the mRNA platform was gene therapy, but permitted the use of the term 'vaccine' in order to avoid 'vaccine hesitancy.'
EEGator was pointing to the fact that the Covid 'vaccines' did not work and that was known from the start.
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EEGator wrote: “Originally it was stated that it would prevent one from becoming ill. It was a blatant lie and you know it.”
DD: There has never been a vaccine that was 100% effective in preventing illness.
ransomnote: EEGator did not assert there was a vaccine that was 100% effective in preventing illness, so why did you try to refute him with the counter statement? I think it's because he pointed to the blatant lies the CDC knowingly pushed and you had no way to refute him. The world heard the lies - a shill like you can't drown them out now.
EEGator wrote: “Vaccines are supposed to undergo long term testing, of at least 5 years, prior to full approval.”
DD: There is nothing in law that requires five years of testing. The only requirements are that certain steps must be completed. The COVID vaccines went through all those steps. The difference was, some steps were conducted in parallel rather than sequentually to save time. But, you knew that.
ransomnote: EEGator did not assert that the law required a set period of testing, so why did you attempt to refute him? I think it's because you knew that the issue behind the ridiculously brief trial period was the impact on safety and effectiveness. The Covid 'vaccine' development could only have occurred that quickly because it skipped many steps, for example sequential testing and data collection/observation of patients over the course of years, instead of 2- 3 months.(Don't you remember the 'discovery' the CDC announced that immunity dropped after 4 or months or so? They were shocked because they never tested it long enough to know before they injected billions. The time consuming standard testing of vaccines is of course absolutely critical to the safety and effectiveness issue because claiming a 'vaccine' protects someone based on 3 months of observation doesn't mean anything at the 4 month mark and safety issues (impacts to fertility) can take years to determine (birth defects etc).
Conducting steps in parallel interferes with validity, and devious steps like vaccinating the control groups, negates the usefullness of the pointless, low-grade, for-show 'drug trials'.
One of the tests that the pharmas did not conduct was bio-accumulation of the spike proteins. That hit the news because Japan refused to purchase the vax unless the pharma conducted this standard test, which only takes about 24 hours to complete. So the pharma conducted the bio-accummulation test requested by Japan and revealed that the spike proteins collect in vital organs along with testes, ovaries etc.
There was nothing standard or professional about the Covid 'vaccine' trials - that's why Pfizer wanted to delay the release of trial information normally made available to the public by 75 years. None of the MSM or shills like you admit that information has now been exposed and it reveals the dirty deeds the FDA/Pharma/CDC knew about, but hid from the public.
Walensky (CDC) stated on video which I posted that she knew of no reason that the vax would not be safe for pregnant women - Walensky lied. Fauci lied. You lied. You're lying.
EEGator wrote: “What’s the average timeline from beginning to fully approved vaccines in the history of the FDA?”
DD: Time isn’t a requirement, the specific steps to be performed in testing are the requirements.
ransomnote: The specific steps to be peformed in testing are not the only requirements. Industry stanards and logical progression, careful collection of data etc are some of the additional factors required. Normal, standard steps performed in vaccine trials take 5 years or more to complete. The FDA helped Pharmas just skip all that and conduct whatever it wanted in a matter of months, then helped them hide the damaging results from the public.
For example, Peter Doshi noticed that a very large cohort of people who became ill after Pfizer's 'vaccine' administration were statistically eliminated from consideration because they will ill but had a negative Covid test (recall, the Covid test did not use the actual covid virus in development so the PCR was designed to identify a 'related Corona Virus). So Pfizer couldn't know what illness(es) a large number of vaccinated sick people came down with - so it ignored them when calculating 'vaccine' success. Researchers who claw this information into the public sphere are astounced at the indifference Pfizer and the FDA, Moderna showed in their race to force the vax on the public.
We could just cut to the chase. The mRNA platform never suceeded in protecting a single patient from any disease before it was forced on the public with mandates etc. The reason the mRNA had never been tried on the public before was that it was too harmful to the animals tested. It wasn't safe enough. The animals sickened and died. That is the platform which was selected to force up on the entire world after a few months of testing.
EEGator is certainly right about your duplicity. But you knew that.
Thanks for ping and greater explanation.
ransomnote wrote: “The Covid ‘vaccine’ is not a vaccine. The FTC filing stated that the mRNA platform was gene therapy, but permitted the use of the term ‘vaccine’ in order to avoid ‘vaccine hesitancy.’”
Show me where the FTC said that the COVID vaccine was gene therapy. mRNA can be used for gene therapy (modifying DNA) but the COVID vaccines do not modify your DNA so they are not gene therapy.
ransomnote: “EEGator did not assert there was a vaccine that was 100% effective in preventing illness, so why did you try to refute him with the counter statement?”
EEGator implied that anything not 100% effective could not be a vaccine when he stated that the vaccines did not prevent illness. Of course there are breakthrough infections where the Covid vaccine failed to prevent an illness but it is misinformation to assert that such infections prove something isn’t a vaccine. Smallpox vaccines have breakthrough too.