Ukraine Says Destroyed Russian Patrol Ship in Annexed Crimea

The Moscow Times ^

[USA-FRANCE]

Ukraine’s GUR military intelligence claimed Tuesday that it destroyed a Russian patrol ship off the coast of annexed Crimea.

The GUR said the Russian patrol ship Sergei Kotov “underwent damage to the stern, starboard and port sides” when it was attacked by seaborne drones overnight near the Kerch Strait.

"As for the crew, the details are being clarified. There are dead and wounded. But it is likely that some of the crew managed to evacuate," military intelligence spokesman Andriy Yusov told journalists.

[PIF]

Regardless of who published the story, the ship is still sunk. Your beloved Moscovians are even admitting it.

Kremlin snuff box
https://t.me/s/kremlin_secrets

17 people died on the ship “Sergei Kotov”.

[DownInFlames]

I saw in another post, don’t know how reliable, that Russian troops are now using armored opens top golf carts. If true, it’s a good indication of their readiness. War is always expensive, and it looks like, even if they win, Russia will be weak militarily. The equipment losses are in the millions every week.

[kiryandil]

“Andriy Volodymyrovych Yusov (Ukrainian: Андрі́й Володи́мирович Ю́сов; born 1983) is a Ukrainian activist and politician.”

[kiryandil]

But Russian Ukrainian meat-waves on land, where they lose 8 to 1 soldiers, could still be dangerous.

I guess you haven't heard that the Russian "General 200", Syrskyi, is pouring what's left of the Ukrainian army into a useless effort to retake liberated Avdeyevka...

[kiryandil]

"... the harsh Ukrainian winter”

LOL!

[kiryandil]

The Moscow Times isn't in Moscow.

It's a mouthpiece for the Ukrainians. A Joseph Goebbels-like rag.

[House Atreides]

“… Russian meat-waves on land, where they lose 8 to 1 soldiers, could still be dangerous.”
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Meanwhile, Ukrainians COUNTERATTACK IN CROISSANT WAVES.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "Please tell me what your post has to do with Josef Goebbels."

Messaging. It's all about messaging. Whether from one source or another. Have your read the early Goebbels' materials? As many sites observe, he was "campaign manager, orator, writer...."

The various websites -- The Moscow Times is not in Russia -- which "report" also campaign and beyond.

You wrote to USA-FRANCE, "You sound like Josef Goebbels circa April, 1945." So many sound like propagandists, because we are in a time of massive propaganda, in which only "the others" do it, while "we" -- whoever the we are -- don't. Supposedly.

Propaganda is by definition in all literary sources and references, neutral and representing a specific point-of-view. The Dutch website operating for over 30 years calls itself "Moscow Times." Of course it isn't. Why not call it "The Amsterdam Times" reporting on Russia? Because most don't look behind the screen to see who's operating things.

Goebbels was a propagandist, one among so many. Today's propagandists have website behind which to obscure their "addresses."

As to the Ukraine-Russia war, both sides are expending men and materiel. Will there come an end to this war? Of course. Only then, will what has been propaganda be more clearly evident.

Other propaganda? The SARS Cov2 hysteria which headlined "3.4 percent "mortality", unseated a President, and made some few very rich, yet four years later that hysteria dribbled down into less than one tenth of one percent mortality. How about the EV propaganda? Time is proving the whole thing a boondoggle. How about the forecasts of "warming?" And so on.

All these have to do with Goebbels, a star teacher in the ugly art of nudging, messaging, orating, narrating and publishing with a single-minded goal. Or "Nudge" by Thaler and Obama's messaging advisor, Cass Sunstein. So many examples. So much propaganda.

My comment simply sourced "The Moscow Times" to Amsterdam.

So here's a wee challenge. Look through The Moscow Times website, and see how easy/difficult it is to find their actual address. When one wants to "palm the ace," it is good to hide it well....

In that same way, take a look at Biden's security advisor who has been his campaign manager. Aces aplenty have been palmed.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "Your beloved Moscovians are even admitting it."

You write an idiotic comment. Neither Putin nor Zelensky belong in a category going by the descriptive, "beloved."

But your "beloved" Biden surely seems aligned with your expressed views. How's your "beloved" Speedy, when not wishing for nuclear war?

See? Two can play at such games. Beloved RINO Pif.

[Pilsner]

You write an idiotic comment. Neither Putin nor Zelensky belong in a category going by the descriptive, "beloved."

Is this your first Russian-Ukraine War thread?

Putin Fanbois worship Putin as the "Savior of Western Civilization."™

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- " Is this your first Russian-Ukraine War thread? Putin Fanbois worship Putin as the "Savior of Western Civilization."™ "

What an inane question, but then you knew the answer to it already when posting it.

Fan boys. There are some Putin fan boys here on Free Republic, a lot more Zelensky fan boys ( maybe you? ) and even some sub rosa Biden fan boys who try their best to obscure that.

Since you seem to be writing fiction, and the phrase "Savior of Western Civilization™" seems uniquely 'by your hand,' care to illustrate ANY Freeper who has asserted Putin is such, by providing a link as citation? I'll wait.

[USA-FRANCE]

“That may be true but that does not change the fact that Ukraine/NATO/The Globalists/Military industrial Complex, has lost.”

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Thus you believe that the Russia/CSTO/GINSCA/Russian Military Industrial Complex has won?

*GINSCA
(Globo-Islamo-NeoSoviet-Communist-Alliance)

Indeed, communist North Korea is sending millions of shells to Russia. Communist China has recently made a free trade agreement with Russia. The Islamic Sate of Iran in shipping thousands of kamikaze drones to Russia. Etc, etc...

It’s indeed a proven globalist network of NeoSoviets, Islamists, and communists.

[MplsSteve]

“Thus you believe that the Russia/CSTO/GINSCA/Russian Military Industrial Complex has won?”

Given the pro-Russian bootlicking that a number of Freepers have for Putin, it’s safe to say they are rooting for a Russian win.

I’m not fan of the Ukrainians and in an ideal world, I wish their graft-ridden cabal of grifters were not around - but I’ll never back the Russians.

Unfortunately, there are too many Freepers who get a Chris Matthews-like thrill up their leg at the thought of Putin.

[laplata]

Thank you for that very good clarification.

[laplata]

Thank you. Some people here seem to be following it and expressing their thoughts accordingly.

[Pilsner]

care to illustrate ANY Freeper who has asserted Putin is such, by providing a link as citation? I'll wait.

Here are some illustrative threads:
Russian Orthodox Church leader: Ukraine invasion a justified war against gay pridet
Head of Russian Church Doubles Down on Liberation of Ukraine from 'Injustice' and 'Repression'
'God Put Putin at Russia's Helm for a Reason, to Transform Her' - Head of Russian Church (Kirill)
Vladimir Putin Vows To Protect Russia From West's "Gender Obscurantism"
Why Are American Conservatives Praising Putin?

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

Nice try, but specifically no links to actual comments you'd like to highlight. "Illustrative threads" show that the Robinsons as operators of Free Republic allow these, so not exactly overt Putin-drenched propaganda.

But to be specific, are you disagreeing with "A Woman Is A Woman, Man Is A Man?" Or find it Russian propaganda?

Or Washington Times -- Posted on 3/7/2022, 7:55:58 PM by RandFan -- Not a Putin-praising news site. Just reporting news of what someone said. Think RandFan is a Putin apologist? I sure don't.

Or, citing a link from 2013 seems as if you had to go back a little to demonstrate you assertion.

I'll repeat my question: Since you seem to be writing fiction, and the phrase "Savior of Western Civilization™" seems uniquely 'by your hand,' care to illustrate ANY Freeper who has asserted Putin is such, by providing a link as citation?

As a matter of small detail, a Google search for the phrase above -- which you wrote -- returns only one result. You.

I reject ANY notion that 1) RandFan, 2) marshmallow, 3) SeekAndFind, and 4) MetaThought (from 2013) are claiming Putin to be "Savior of Western Civilization™."

Perhaps we should invite them to comment on your aspersions?

[Pilsner]

And Delta7, BobL, NorseViking?

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "And Delta7, BobL, NorseViking?"

Why not we invite them to participate in your accusations?

But -- I'll repeat my question: Since you seem to be writing fiction, and the phrase "Savior of Western Civilization™" seems uniquely 'by your hand,' care to illustrate ANY Freeper who has asserted Putin is such, by providing a link as citation?

A second Google search this late night finds two instances of that trademark phrase above. YOU, sourcing Free Republic." And someone named Evan in a "Script for YouTube Video: "JonTron isn't a racist, he's just ignorant"

Northwest View Friday, March 24, 2017

Here's the Google search URL --

About 2 results (0.26 seconds)

You haven't cited a specific comment by any of those you name.

But your e-fingerprint for now is on the phrase in comment # 30 by which you accuse other Freepers.

[Pilsner]

Why don't you get them to deny they think Putin is the man to save Western Civilization?

You use the term "accusation."

My statement about Putin Fanbois in the equivalent of accusing Democrats of being anti-Trump. Its true, and they are proud of it.

And if one of them ever denies it, I'll post that denial on every Russian-Ukraine War thread until the war ends.