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Finland Promotes National Security By Building Ranges and Encouraging Armed Citizens
Bearing Arms ^ | 2/20/24 | Cam Edwards

Posted on 02/20/2024 2:00:05 PM PST by CFW

The right of the people to keep and bear arms isn't just about our individual ability to act in self-defense or defense of others. As the Founders knew, the body of the people capable of bearing arms (otherwise known as the unorganized militia) is necessary to the security of a free state as well. Second Amendment attorneys Chuck Michel and Kostas Moros have done an excellent job of laying out the arguments of the Founding Generation in their recent law review article entitled Restrictions "Our Ancestors Would Never Have Accepted": The Historical Case Against Assault Weapon Bans, but the government of Finland has also given us a very important reminder that, even today, individual gun ownership serves as a check on tyranny and as a means of ensuring that a free people stay that way.

Finland plans to open more than 300 new shooting ranges to encourage more citizens to take up the hobby in the interest of national defence.

It is hoped that shooting in the Nordic country – which last year became Nato’s newest member and which shares a 830-mile (1,330km) border with Russia – could become as popular as football or ice hockey.

There are about 670 shooting ranges in Finland, down from about 2,000 at the turn of the century. By 2030, the government plans to increase the number to about 1,000.

Jukka Kopra, a National Coalition party MP and the chair of Finland’s defence committee, told the Guardian: “The present government aims to increase the amount of shooting ranges in Finland from roughly 600-700 up to 1,000. This is because of our defence model, which benefits from people having and developing their shooting skills on their own.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; europe; finland; firearms; nationalsecurity; shootingranges
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

But any traffic through Kaliningrad has to go through Polish/Lithuanian territory.


41 posted on 02/20/2024 6:00:41 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

“Er, NATO weapons arent getting clobbered.”

It wasn’t me who came up with the term BRADLEY SQUARE, it was someone else who noted the KILLING FIELD of the carcasses of our best armored transport carriers. Lepords are SITTING DUCKS against Russian weapons, as Avdiivka showed, HIMARS are not even in the news, Russian fighters have free-run to drop PRECISION glide bombs, and the FAVORITE fighting force of the Neocons, the NATO-Trained Ukrainian Nazis (Azovs) RUN FOR THEIR LIVES when given orders to fight the Russians.

AGAIN, Ursala PROMISED us nearly 2 YEARS AGO that Russia’s economy would be in TATTERS, I say TATTERS.

...is it?

I get pissed off at the ARROGANCE of the West because we don’t do shit to be competitive with countries like Russia, China, and much of the THIRD WORLD, instead we’re infested with DEI, QUOTAS, HORRENDOUS ‘Education’, knocking down huge hydro dams, tearing down coal plants, outlawing drilling, and yet we run around trying to TAKE OVER THE WORLD, and thinking that we can actually pull that crap off (maybe because we’re white, and therefore a ‘superior’ race, or something?).

If the Neocons get SPANKED in Ukraine, without first blowing up the world, the world will then be a MUCH SAFER PLACE for everyone.


42 posted on 02/20/2024 6:37:27 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

“Many people are unaware that Russian already has an ice-free port at Kaliningrad on the Baltic.”

And many are also unaware that Russia will CLEAR A PATH if the Neocons try to bottle them in their ports, and the US Navy will never even see the missiles that hit them.


43 posted on 02/20/2024 6:38:59 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL
And many are also unaware that Russia will CLEAR A PATH if the Neocons try to bottle them in their ports, and the US Navy will never even see the missiles that hit them.

The Ukes are talking out the Russian Black Sea Fleet with what amounts to Sea Doos stuffed with C-4, and BotL is talking up how well the Russian Baltic Sea will fare against NATO like drunks speaking of Bill Brasky.

44 posted on 02/20/2024 7:34:45 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: Pilsner

Pin pricks.


45 posted on 02/20/2024 7:40:23 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL
Pin pricks.

From SNL to Monty Python’s Black Knight. You are quite the commodean.

Do something from Zucker, Abrahams and Zucker next. Bonus points if it is from Top Secret! and not Airplane!

46 posted on 02/20/2024 8:02:42 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: BobL

That was one incident 7-8 months ago, in a minefield.

And Bradleys are 1980s tech. And those particular Bradleys are 1990s upgrades, not even current.

As for tanks, its a relative matter. The Russian tanks seem to be getting destroyed at rates orders of magnitude greater. Whats the Russian high tech here, pulling rusty hulks from the 1970s out of parking lots?

The Russian glide bombs are things the USAF had thirty years ago. The US version, the SDB, is now being repurposed on spare MLRS cluster boosters, making the GLSDB.

My criticism of Russia, the society and economy, is that it CANT make use of its assets to be productive with its human capital. It rests on its oil and gas resources.


47 posted on 02/20/2024 8:10:09 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: BobL

They will be wiped out if they try to “clear a path”.

Do you understand the vastness of the air assets NATO has? That “path” will be a “highway of death”. Or rather they wont get a chance to move really, their concentrations will be plastered.

Nobody can hide a buildup of significant forces today, recon assets are too good. A Russian buildup in Belorussia will stick out like a mass of flashing red beacons. And NATO will move forces about to counter, notably air.

I suggest you do some minimal research.


48 posted on 02/20/2024 8:18:08 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

“They will be wiped out if they try to “clear a path”.”

Just like they would in Ukraine’s Greatest Offensive Operation Ever!!!!

You guys make Baghdad Bob look OPTIMISTIC.


49 posted on 02/20/2024 8:21:14 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL

You have a serious problem with perspective.

All the @#£%& thats going on with the DEI and other BS are problems, but you leave out all the good parts. The US IS the high tech leader, and throw in its allies, which are its only class level competitors, and the “free world” dominates absolutely.

The news that really matters in all this is in trade journals, not FR posts and arguments.


50 posted on 02/20/2024 8:24:13 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: BobL

That was Ukraine, with a few dozen obsolete planes and tanks.

NATO can throw in @1000 aircraft, and thats just the Euros.

As I said, do some research. Live numbers, love numbers.


51 posted on 02/20/2024 8:26:45 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

“You have a serious problem with perspective.”

No, I see you guys and the Western Media CONSTANTLY making claims about how crappy Russia is, just to SPANKED, virtually every month, in Ukraine.

Given that record, it kind of makes it hard for anyone to believe the future predictions from you guys.


52 posted on 02/20/2024 8:27:55 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: buwaya

“That was Ukraine, with a few dozen obsolete planes and tanks.”

No, that was Ukraine ARMED and TRAINED by NATO, with many TOP LINE WEAPONS, and they got their assess kicked...and left Russia’s military scratching their heads wondering why they bothered to build up such strong lines.

Again, given the record of you guys, ANY predictions regarding Russia has about as much credibility as the British Media.


53 posted on 02/20/2024 8:30:30 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL

Russia IS getting spanked. Its struggling mightily, and losing massively, to win a war against a much smaller country with a fraction of the resources of all kinds.

This is a David and Goliath situation.

Perspective.


54 posted on 02/20/2024 8:31:16 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

“Russia IS getting spanked. Its struggling mightily, and losing massively”

Thanks for the LAUGH, Baghdad, and have a good evening!


55 posted on 02/20/2024 8:33:14 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL

The only planes Ukraine has now (for now) are ex-Soviet leftovers, its own or whatever has been scrounged up from Eastern Europe.

The vast majority of Ukrainian tanks are similar ex-Soviet stuff.

There were about 80 modern western tanks actually delivered to date, including German, US and British types. There are @ another 100 obsolete western tanks. There are a total of 100 old model Bradleys, half of them apparently held for parts.

This is a war where this equipment is counted in the thousands, not dozens.


56 posted on 02/20/2024 8:37:11 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

Skiers from Finland fought the Russians in the 30s…..a feisty small country .

…l


57 posted on 02/20/2024 8:39:40 PM PST by Mears (pz)
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To: BobL

If Russia werent getting spanked, they wouldnt be hauling T-62s and T55s from their boneyards, as we are seeing lots of these on FPV drone footage.

There are a couple of good videos out by a guy who analyzes satellite images of the contents of Russian tank and artillery boneyards. Interesting stuff. In short these have been largely emptied. Long term storage has been turned into in-process inventory and current equipment. And THAT is because all the current equipment, as of 2022, has been lost, and moreover this turnover seems to have happened a couple of times over.

So much so that it seems the current common chassis for reconditioning has become the T62. All the old T72 and T80 chassis, that are worth an overhaul, seem to have been taken.


58 posted on 02/20/2024 8:46:26 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Mears

The skiers were useful, a lot, but most of the fighting, with the majority of the men involved, was trench warfare on the Karelian isthmus. Not that unlike the Ukrainian war.


59 posted on 02/20/2024 8:49:36 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

Thanks for that info .

….


60 posted on 02/20/2024 8:52:52 PM PST by Mears (pz)
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