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"Most of them are Dead!" Ukraine's military CAUGHT hiding the truth about dead soldiers | Redacted
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Posted on 01/27/2024 1:23:10 AM PST by ganeemead

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To: Chad C. Mulligan

 

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled "Most of them are Dead!" Ukraine's military CAUGHT hiding the truth about dead soldiers | Redacted, Chad C. Mulligan wrote:

That hair doesn’t split. There are no current indictments or tort action against him because it would be a waste of time. Portugal doesn’t extradite to the USA. Which is why he’s hiding there, waiting I suppose for statutes of limitations to run out. Or his victims to die off, maybe.

Had he not fled, he’d have been inundated with civil suits. And he knew full well that he’d lose them all.

There are people making excuses for Hunter Biden. Y’all are in the same club.

 

 You're happy to blame him with zero evidence so you're on the side of lawfare. Wanting evidence is not 'hair splitting'. I'd have to see actual proof Morris did anything more than expose content the Deep State wants hidden. There's mountains of evidence against spawn of Joe Biden, including Hunter Biden high and naked with an unde raged girl. Morris and Biden are not the same.

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled "Most of them are Dead!" Ukraine's military CAUGHT hiding the truth about dead soldiers | Redacted, Worldtraveler once upon a time wrote:
To clarify:

"Herbert 'Bert' Whalen, 47, made the plea during a video conference. The charge of conspiracy to commit wire fraud carries a maximum potential sentence of 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000 or twice the gross loss or gain caused by the offense, whichever is more.

"Whalen preyed on "innocent victims’ desire to improve their own financial position through what they thought were sound investments,” Philip R. Sellinger, U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, said in a statement."

"...Morris has not been charged with a crime and was not named in the indictment or the statement from the U.S. Attorney's office."

Indy landlord Bert Whalen lived lavishly. Now he's pleading guilty to defrauding investors Indianapolis Star, 1 March 2002

Seems as if Whalen was the "dirty deal." Without a criminal conviction against Morris, a civil case seems weak at best. As with all things, time will tell.

 


41 posted on 01/27/2024 7:31:42 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: MeganC

Zelenski is a fascist puppet, that’s all. He does what he’s told while helping himself to as much as he can. Ukraine’s nazis infest every level of government/military so there is little Zelenski could do even if he were so inclined.

The fact Zelinski has Jewish parents is of no real consequence other than to highlight the hypocrisy that defines his role as beggar in chief to a western backed nazi regime.


42 posted on 01/27/2024 7:49:27 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: ransomnote
Is was asserted -- with citation or source -- "Portugal doesn't extradite to the USA."

Here with sources and citations: When statutes of limitations in a nation have expired, then extradition is not available, as in one case decades old. But for all other "open" criminal complaints, Portugal allows for extradition to the USA.

TREATIES AND OTHER INTERNATIONAL ACTS SERIES 10-201.18 EXTRADITION Instrument Amending the Convention of May 7, 1908 Between the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and PORTUGAL -- Signed at Washington July 14, 2005

List of United States extradition treaties Portugal is included in the Wiki list.

TITLE 18--CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART II--CRIMINAL PROCEDURE CHAPTER 209--EXTRADITION US Code

As with so many who comment, the proof is so often in the proverbial pudding.

All an interlocutor need do is cite official notices as above. But there was an interesting and perhaps inadvertent statement to you: "There are no current indictments or tort action against him because it would be a waste of time." That statement, predicated on no extradition treaty, proves itself an error. "No current indictments or tort action" means what, then? It means the interlocutor stipulates that "there are no current indictments or tort action."

Doing business in New Jersey, according to multiple sources in this thread, is not doing business from Portugal.

43 posted on 01/27/2024 8:08:42 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: linMcHlp
The Reuters article is most interesting. The title reads: "Ukrainians seek recognition for fallen soldiers." The obvious answer is the Zelensky government, which seems by Reuters' prose to not be granting said "recognition."

This makes sense up to a point, as we should know from our experiences with MIAs over decades now. But Ukraine, about the size of Texas, is not Vietnam, thousands of miles away and under another jurisdiction. So in today's case, it is Ukrainians appealing to their Ukrainian government.

As the article was truncated, here below are the last paragraphs from Reuters:

The phenomenon presents a challenge for the government, which must chose who should be formally recognised while also maintaining collective morale, said Yurchuk, a senior lecturer at Sweden's Södertörn University.

"On one hand, there's the individual and the family's memory," she said.

"And on the other, there's the state, which is responsible for working with this memory in a way that consolidates and mobilises people."

Therein one sees the calculation, as some "Ukrainians seek recognition for fallen soldiers" and some calculate.
44 posted on 01/27/2024 8:17:33 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

I remembered the following story at YouTube, from a year ago, and just found the link:

Ukraine War: Meet the body collectors of Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnJbz-InnyM


45 posted on 01/27/2024 9:15:23 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp
Thanks for the link. In the Sky article associated with the video, I found it odd that "Prime Minister Rishi Sunak says Ukraine 'needs a military strategy to win the war'," given the date of the article and quote was 19 February 2023, less than a year ago.

Collecting bodies, whether in war or as part of the coroners' office, is indeed a grim business. For all and everyone on all sides.

So that Sunak-blabbed "needs a military strategy" is just so much British billionaire wind, as the Conservatives in the upcoming elections face a British electorate decidedly angry for many reasons.

Who knew? Ukraine didn't have "a military strategy to win the war?" Sometimes politicians are idiots. Meanwhile those who do indeed collect the dead do a heavy work as they pay their own price for all those dead who paid even more. Sad.

As quoted from that Reuters article you also provided:

As the article was truncated, here below are the last paragraphs from Reuters:

The phenomenon presents a challenge for the government, which must chose who should be formally recognised while also maintaining collective morale, said Yurchuk, a senior lecturer at Sweden's Södertörn University.

"On one hand, there's the individual and the family's memory," she said.

"And on the other, there's the state, which is responsible for working with this memory in a way that consolidates and mobilises people."

Therein one sees the calculation, as some "Ukrainians seek recognition for fallen soldiers" and some POLITICIANS calculate.

Politicians and press bloviate all around the world. And war pays them its dividends: SkyNews One of the financial winners in the YouTube gambit. With and estimated from $242.6K to $3.9M per year. More ka-ching. And more dead.

46 posted on 01/27/2024 9:46:29 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: ganeemead

A video I was watching said rumors from certain undisclosed sources said Ukrainian causalities maybe as high as 4,000,000 dead and seriously WIA. !!!

personally I that is an exaggeration but certainly Ukr is underreporting for obvious morale reasons.


47 posted on 01/27/2024 9:55:35 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: MeganC

So Zelensky is a Jewish Nazi? You truly are beneath contempt.


As if there were no such thing...


48 posted on 01/27/2024 10:30:14 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Flaming Conservative
--- "So Zelensky is a Jewish Nazi? You truly are beneath contempt. As if there were no such thing...

The odd thing about descriptions is that so often one has to reject them. Here are some descriptions which Freepers might reject:

Joe Biden -- exemplary Christian

Nancy Pelosi -- representative Catholic

The ELCA of today -- a truly Christian denomination

A trans-"woman" -- a real woman

Pedophilia -- a lifestyle choice

The list can continue, as you can imagine.

Karl Marx, some assert was Jewish because his parents were, though he showed no outward signs of practicing even some portion of the Jewish faith. Zelensky may be so described, both Jewish and not -- depending on what the descriptive is.

As to Nazis and Jews, many brutal "Kapos" in the Nazi prison camps were Jews, of some sort.

Adjectives. Descriptions. The easiest and most accessible of the mental modules in which to lie is WORDS. The best antidote is other words which are true words. Such come with documentation, sources and citations.

Here is a source for one of these above:

What is a 'Kapo'? The history of the worst insult a Jew can give another Jew

49 posted on 01/27/2024 10:56:36 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: tlozo
"LOL, sure."

That some real rational thinking you got there. Are you a Democrat?

I notice that everything you've posted is about Ukraine. How's the coffee in the White House basement?

50 posted on 01/27/2024 1:24:49 PM PST by The Duke (Why do I think that the cynicism gene is going to be prevalent in future generations?)
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To: Phoenix8

One problem that Russian soldiers do not have is that hoho wounded are not being gotten to care in any kind of a hurry or even at all in many/most cases. The overwhelming Russian edge in firepower and control of the air results in something like a 10-1 ratio of KIA and by all accounts hohos have lost something ike 500K - 600K KIA and the normal ratio of something like 3-1 seriously wounded to dead wouldn’t seem to apply given the circumstances, no telling. Aside from all that, “ukraine” has lost another 10M or so left and never coming back, out of an original population of around 40M.


51 posted on 01/27/2024 1:30:32 PM PST by ganeemead (everything )
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