Posted on 01/18/2024 3:17:36 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
LOL!
Nah.. only the prez who locked us down, signed big checks for big pharma and big government medicine has immunity.
He offered DACA signaling to every criminal who wants to cross our border that the new gop is great with that. Never caravans until Trump waved the border surrender flag.
He is great with Disney groomers, and trannys in your wife and daughter’s bathroom.
If the Congress chooses not to impeach and remove, then we’ll just have to wait until the end of his term(s), then the real constitutional crisis begins—and that’s when we the people will learn just how little our elected representatives know about the Constitution.
All right Sir, I went back and very carefully read what Trump actually said, several times, and he is saying that we should be accepting of ALL Presidents crossing the line, at their discretion, so that they can operate freely and unencumbered, as they see fit in the accomplishment of their work, or what they perceive as their work.
Personally, I reject that mindset, and find it dangerous to a Republican form of government. This is exactly how I expect the Supreme Court to rule on the appeal as well.
No one, not even the President, should be given blanket, eternal immunity. That would simply result in near immediate abuse of the privilege, and why it was not explicitly granted in the Constitution, per my reading and understanding.
I respectfully submit this to you for consideration, and assure you that any and all concerns that I have about Trump, that caused me to withdraw my strong support of him roughly one year ago, are from a very strict, and strong, conservative belief system. God Bless.
And another
Trump is correct.
Well, as I said, you can always amend the Constitution
Kellyanne Conway was a major influence in '16.
American women held their noses and voted for Trump over Hillary.
Trump needs to find a way to appeal to white women again. Joe Biden has one trick in his bag that Hillary didn't get to use back in '16.
Abortion.
White women will crawl on broken glass to vote for the Democrats on the abortion issue alone.
“Read your constitution”
Read the US Constitution. I am not sure he’s an American.
I’m over it, if they love their abortions so damned much, maybe it’s better that they don’t become parents.
Well said. đź‘Ť
Amen to that!
Plus me having to foot the bill for a bunch of future hoodrats, that mommy can’t afford.
Yes Sir, I totally agree with this, and this is actually what Trump's own lawyers argued during his impeachment over these issues - that the proper forum for adjudicating these disputes would be in a court of law after his term ended.
He now has different legal representation, who are now arguing that it doesn't matter if he is in office, or already out, anything that he did while in office is protected by "Presidential immunity" which is term that was relatively unheard of until just recently, and not a theory that I personally subscribe to.
that’s when we the people will learn just how little our elected representatives know about the Constitution.
As far as I know the Constitution does not grant the President any form of prosecutorial immunity. The DOJ has historically maintained a policy to not allow prosecutions of a sitting President, but that has always been qualified by them saying that was simply their internal policy, and there was actually no Constitutional restriction. If you have further details or insights you'd like to share I would be interested, of course. If not, I hope you understand I am simply trying to play this straight, and have concerns about the power of government, to include the President.
If you don’t think it matters, you’re a fool. It doesn’t hurt me any, I just won’t try to read it and neither will millions of other people.
As I said, that’s when the real constitutional crisis begins
Let's try "the shoe on the other foot" analysis, if you have time to consider.
If it was Obama, who was tweeting out in all caps that all Presidents should be granted permanent, blanket immunity, for all actions that they took while President, would you agree with him?
What if Obama did it the day before Michelle took office, if she/he were to win the Presidential election in 2024? Still in favor?
There are legitimate arguments for broad presidential immunity and Trump was trying to touch upon but because he’s an illiterate man child he just spewed forth a rant that will be used against him and every other republican.
I think the US Supreme Court will look at Trump’s appeal requesting permanent, blanket immunity for all Presidents, past and future, as an overreach of Presidential power, and rule against it.
I believe they will say that each and every case has different circumstances, with regard to whether the President was performing a Presidential duty, or not, which must be judged as to whether it thereby affords them immunity or not.
So it will be an affirmation of partial immunity, just as other government representatives often have, just not eternal, infinite immunity for all actions, as Trump is requesting.
I currently believe this is the correct interpretation, and the best verdict for America going forward. I am not however, close minded, and look forward to reading and hearing the arguments presented, here and in the court itself. Thanks again.
Yes. The constitution makes provisions. If you don’t like it, you must change it.
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