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Loss of Alaska cockpit recording rekindles industry safety debate
Reuters ^ | January 8, 2024 | Valerie Insinna, David Shepardson, Lisa Barrington

Posted on 01/08/2024 12:57:06 PM PST by george76

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1 posted on 01/08/2024 12:57:06 PM PST by george76
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Overwritten?

Sounds like there was something on that tape that wasn’t meant to be disclosed.


2 posted on 01/08/2024 1:00:28 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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3 posted on 01/08/2024 1:01:54 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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there is no reason with storage as cheap as it is now not to have longer recording times.

I am surprised that Boeing has not done this as a standard option seeing as they have to do it in the EU anyway.

But unfortunately Boeing is no longer an engineering driven company.


4 posted on 01/08/2024 1:02:05 PM PST by algore
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To: Responsibility2nd

It must be a fascinating life you lead thinking EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. The window (false door) blew out because someone at Boeing screwed up, and the pilots did a nice job of landing the plane. No one got hurt. End of story.


5 posted on 01/08/2024 1:02:22 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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No, they record continuously like an old-fashioned loop tape recorder (I think at one time they WERE loop tape recorders), so whatever is older than X amount of hours is gone.


6 posted on 01/08/2024 1:02:31 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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I got more storage than that on my cell phone...


7 posted on 01/08/2024 1:03:21 PM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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Reminds me of the old fashioned roll towels made of cloth in a rolling continuous dispenser for drying your hands in a public bathroom. I never hear calls to bring those back.


8 posted on 01/08/2024 1:07:15 PM PST by desertsolitaire ( M)
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The cockpit? What is it?

It’s a room in the front of the plane with the pilots. But that’s not important now?


9 posted on 01/08/2024 1:08:38 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: algore

Longer recording times should not be an issue - nor should it have been “overwritten” immediately after it landed after the incident.

We have all these agencies regulating everything and nobody paying attention to anything.


10 posted on 01/08/2024 1:11:16 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Sounds like they were using a tape recorder from the 80s.


11 posted on 01/08/2024 1:15:04 PM PST by rexthecat
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Why can’t voice and data recordings be uploaded to a satellite so they don’t have to look for “black boxes” after a mishap?


12 posted on 01/08/2024 1:18:36 PM PST by rexthecat
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To: Responsibility2nd
Sounds like there was something on that tape that wasn’t meant to be disclosed.<

No, the authorities (NTSB investigator) didn't request the recorder be turned off (circuit breaker pulled) when starting the investigation upon landing.

Incompetence is not conspiracy.

13 posted on 01/08/2024 1:20:16 PM PST by pfflier
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“Reminds me of the old fashioned roll towels made of cloth in a rolling continuous dispenser for drying your hands in a public bathroom. I never hear calls to bring those back.”

If you grew up and survived those, you are immune to everything...


14 posted on 01/08/2024 1:23:13 PM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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there is no reason with storage as cheap as it is now not to have longer recording times

There is a reason... just not a good one.

Boeing (or whatever Boeing subcontractor) has a piece of paper that says they get paid if they deliver a voice recorder with a two hour memory window.

They also paid for a quantity of two hour voice recorder memory chips to be made and pass through certification for use in cockpit voice recorders and are now only good to be used for US deliveries, so why not use them up first?

15 posted on 01/08/2024 1:26:07 PM PST by jz638
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Ex Douglas air craft employees nod


16 posted on 01/08/2024 1:54:37 PM PST by Vaduz
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they were not reused.

The used portion was rolled up and then laundered.\

Clean rolls were inserted.

I used to change them out.


17 posted on 01/08/2024 1:57:24 PM PST by Scrambler Bob
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>I got more storage than that on my cell phone...

Yes, but it is unlikely to survive a crash at 600kts+.


18 posted on 01/08/2024 2:01:59 PM PST by fretzer
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It’s got gorilla glass....
Proven tough


19 posted on 01/08/2024 2:10:04 PM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sounds like Rose Mary Woods is working for Alaska Airlines.


20 posted on 01/08/2024 2:11:16 PM PST by bobcat62
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