Posted on 01/05/2024 2:38:32 PM PST by Reno89519
Now I think God is using Trump to expose Trump's followers
What? He did? I thought this was supposed to be horribly blasphemous, considering the reactions of Trump supporters when DeSantis did something earlier based on the same Farmer theme. What a bunch of hypocrites, unless they now call this out as well.
The accurate way to apply the Constitution, as stated by Judge Robert Bork, the leading constitutional scholar of his time, is to apply the Constitution as written and originally understood and intended.
In Wong Kim Ark (1898), the Court did what it appears to be a good-faith effort to find the original understanding of natural born citizen (NBC). IMO, it was a valid constitutionally-based decision and stands as the legal mandatory authority making Vivek an NBC from what I can tell.
Remember, this case was decided in 1898. It was sometime early in the 1900’s that the Supreme Court began to habitually abandon the Constitution as written and originally understood and intended the basis for their decisions.
Something happened around 1900. The Left (the spirit of antichrist, really) began to raise its ugly head. Sometime around 1900, the world began in earnest to turn away from God, something that hadn’t happened since Noah’s flood, and the Supreme Court began to abandon the Constitution.
What exactly would you think at this point if you were Trump?
Logged on, no coffee yet, and glanced at this article, soiling my brain as I read through, then as my brain coagulated a thought for a response, I read yours, and it suffices.
Yep, God is using Trump, and how does that work with his adultry, porn stars, divorces, the continual bad picks of people that turn on him, etc.?
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Read the Bible. God often chose imperfect men, several disciples among them.
However, they used the language of Natural born citizen to cover those who were not born in the U.S.
An example would be George Washington, who was born in Virginia a colony of England. His parents had lived in the colonies, and because of that, he George Washington was deemed a Natural Born Citizen.
The way you have it defined, any illegal who drops a child on this soil; that child is eligible to hold the office of President or Vice President, but that was not the intention of this nation's founders. Otherwise, the nation is susceptible to foreign invasion by an enemy actor who impregnates a woman and secrets her into the nation.
I'm sorry Jim, but you are wrong. All you are doing is supporting those who desire is to subvert the Constitution by creating confusion. You had better rethink your position, because it makes absolutely no common sense whatsoever with respect to the Constitution's explicit requirement of Natural Born Citizen. In fact, the Constitution makes no mention of anyone being born in the U.S. as being automatically deemed as a citizen. That only came about by politician's either not thinking the wording through thoroughly, or their intention was to subvert citizenship attainment. I prefer to think the previous was the explanation. However, the Supreme Court certainly used the 14th amendment to come to their ruling, that Wong Kim Ark was a citizen based upon language in the 14th Amendment. The following blurb is from Wikipedia who occasionally get things correct:
The Fourteenth Amendment (Amendment XIV) to the United States Constitution was adopted on July 9, 1868, as one of the Reconstruction Amendments. Usually considered one of the most consequential amendments, it addresses citizenship rights and equal protection under the law and was proposed in response to issues related to formerly enslaved Americans following the American Civil War. The amendment was bitterly contested, particularly by the states of the defeated Confederacy, which were forced to ratify it in order to regain representation in Congress. The amendment, particularly its first section, is one of the most litigated parts of the Constitution, forming the basis for landmark Supreme Court decisions such as Brown v. Board of Education (1954) regarding racial segregation, Roe v. Wade (1973) regarding abortion (overturned in 2022), Bush v. Gore (2000) regarding the 2000 presidential election, Obergefell v. Hodges (2015) regarding same-sex marriage, and Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard (2023) regarding race-based college admissions. The amendment limits the actions of all state and local officials, and also those acting on behalf of such officials.
ASs you can see, the Supreme Court has badly misinterpreted the 14th Amendment on numerous issues. While they omit the citizenship issues in Wikipedia, it to deserves to be mentioned by Wikipedia.
Sadly, you are parroting that lousy ruling that should never have been made based upon the 14th Amendment. Could it have been done by justices who came from the South in retaliation? That would take a lot more research to see if that might be a possibility, which is why I prefer to believe it was poor wording by politicians who didn't think their amendment through thoroughly, and no one else did either. but we are certainly paying the price for it in current times.
I can find no evidence of Bork and his take on the issue. However, I do see Cornell making the claim that the 14th Amendment ruling on Wong Kim Ark made him a Natural Born Citizen,. That was not the ruling though, he was deemed a US citizen, period.
Even you allude that around the begging of the 1900s, leftists gained more control. But they changed nothing in the Constitution. What they did was make proclamations as to the rulings, but they are false proclamations.
Amen. God says our thoughts are not His thoughts; our ways not His ways. But he absolutely works His mighty works in our lives to bring about people ‘for such a time as this’.
glad I could be of help :) sometimes responses just have to be pointed, when dealing with the enemy. A command, if you will.
I’ll pick “cynical narcissist “ for $400, Alex.
Still voting for him 1/23 but I’m sorry this happened.
The Ark case decided the subject was a citizen (parents legally in the U.S.) because he was born on U.S. soil. How is that not the definition of an NBC?
you’re a liar just like your little retarded friends (who could actually be YOU under a different moniker)
I think you’re really wrong.
HAHAHAHA
yes very true no 4D chess ;)
This will play right into the delusions of some. I have someone in my family that literally worships Trump (he can say or do no wrong). It does tend to make one feel uncomfortable about supporting him, despite the fact that no other candidate could probably turn this disaster ship around. It’s a dilemma.
Banana Republicans want to go back to the Bush,Dole,Bush,McCain,Romney type candidates..
America First is the absolute Last thing Banana Republicans want
Trump infiltrated a swamp party that had all but Dole even considered a supporter..
Amazing how a former democrat billionaire reality star embarrassed one of the swamp political parties previous Presidential timber with his 4 years..
I’d hate Trump too if I was a Banana Republican
“I’d hate Trump too if I was a Banana Republican”
Ah, but it’s not just the “Banana Republicans” that hate Trump. It’s the Marxist Democrats, as well... as you know. It’s just that the fake Republicans have just as much to lose “now” as the rats do, if Trump gets back in office. He has their number good & plenty by now.
Bottom line... if Trump does not get back in office, this nation is toast as a free, constitution-ruled nation. They’re collapsing us as we speak.
Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, in order to fulfill the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah, the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he sent a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and also put it in writing, saying:I find this one of the most amazing passages in scripture. This guy is in his first year as ruler of the most mighty empire on the planet. Almost anyone would be swollen up with pride, but he takes time to focus on a tiny nation and listen to God about His desires for those people.“Thus says Cyrus king of Persia, ‘The Lord, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and He has appointed me to build Him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Whoever there is among you of all His people, may his God be with him! Let him go up to Jerusalem which is in Judah and rebuild the house of the Lord, the God of Israel; He is the God who is in Jerusalem. Every survivor, at whatever place he may live, let the men of that place support him with silver and gold, with goods and cattle, together with a freewill offering for the house of God which is in Jerusalem.’”
Ezra 1:1-4
God can call any one of us to do mighty things in His name.
Parents legally in the US, but not citizens.
Right. Vivek’s facts match the facts of the Ark case.
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