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To: Theoria; Reverend Wright

I cannot disagree with you, however, saying that they didn’t care when it was 650K a year doesn’t mean a given person won’t feel differently when it is 3 million a year...or more.

But to both you and Freeper Reverend Wright, I concede your assertion that “they don’t care”, because as you point out, there is no countervailing evidence to disprove that.

We do know of at least one politician who has done something, and that is Trump.

And he did it with zero help from Congress or his own party.

People rightly point out it wasn’t much comparatively speaking to the extent of the problem, but given that he did the scraping and searching for funds all on his own, when we could have taken some of that hundreds of billions sent to Ukraine (with little or NO popular support) I am impressed that he did what he did, and SHOWED it could be done.

What is your solution, Theoria, to those in government “that people support” who have “sold out America”? Get different people to run? If so, have you had any involvement or success in this? Just curious.


25 posted on 01/02/2024 1:14:36 PM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: rlmorel; Theoria

The point I always make is that support for mass third world immigration, legal and illegal, has been going on in every single Western country since the mid 1960’s with the support of the corporate-supported “conservative” parties in those countries.

There have been individual politicians like Enoch Powell, Trump and political movements like the Canadian Reform Party and populist parties in Europe who went against mass immigration.

In the past these were dealt with via ridicule and marginalization by elite institutions.

However, they are becoming more powerful, and we see the Regime now turning to the legal system to exclude. (charges against Trump; AFD likely to be made illegal in Germany).

I’ll suggest a standard to identify if an anti-immigrant political program is genuine: If the Regime is not trying to criminalize them, they’re not for real.

I don’t think there is a solution within the existing political structures. This Regime has to collapse in order for change to occur.

Fortunately, it is well on its way to collapse.


27 posted on 01/02/2024 1:33:36 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: rlmorel
The only solution is to take care of your family, friends, and prepare to face orcs and goblins everyday.

The nature of technology and innovation is to spread the system of family and community away. Advancements in travel, and tech, allows for less need of community. Planes, trains, the wheel and such have all dispersed peoples and clans.

‘Conservative’ policies works in closed systems, fighting and hardships. The phenom of creating more wealth via ‘capitalism’ allows for nations and communities to be more ‘accepting’ to deviants, migration, legal or otherwise. Summary: Success breeds immigration, unless ya want to be N. Korea, America will be conquered. Migration always conquers.

31 posted on 01/02/2024 2:44:19 PM PST by Theoria
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