[Kazan]

It's all but certain if there isn't an unconditional surrender, the Russians will take everything east of the Dnieper river and Odessa.

There is no benefit to keeping the war going for Ukraine.

[BobL]

‘There is no benefit to keeping the war going for Ukraine.”

No benefit for Ukraine, but HUGE BENEFIT for Biden, since his bunch will not be perceived to have been DEFEATED by Russia in their little, idiotic, war adventure...at least until next year’s elections are over.