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To: McGruff

https://borepatch.blogspot.com/2023/12/nikki-haley-was-right.html

Bit of Civil War history I never knew.

“But while facts are stubborn things, so is the ignorance and arrogance of the media (including the ostensibly conservative media). Remember, the history of that war as taught today is retarded.”


6 posted on 12/28/2023 12:59:03 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

The civil war may not have been about slavery for the north, but it sure was for the south. The average white citizen of the north was extremely racist and Lincoln could have never started to fight the Confederates if he made the war about slavery. In fact many slave states didn’t initially rebel. Virginia, Arkansas, North Carolina and Tennessee joined after Beauregard opened fire on Fort Sumter. It was a response to Lincolns call for a draft to fight the south.

Even so, the slave states of Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland and Missouri did not join the Confederacy. How the hell could the war be to free the slaves? It simply couldn’t.

But for the south it sure the hell was. And here’s a great YouTube video talking about this exact topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsxhYetLM0&list=PLwCiRao53J1y_gqJJOH6Rcgpb-vaW9wF0&index=8&ab_channel=Atun-SheiFilms


34 posted on 12/28/2023 5:47:40 PM PST by BJ1
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
LINCOLN/GREELY LETTER

Horace Greeley (February 3, 1811 – November 29, 1872) was an American newspaper editor and publisher who was the founder and editor of the New-York Tribune.

Long active in politics, he served briefly as a congressman from New York and was the unsuccessful candidate of the new Liberal Republican.

Horace Greeley complained that Lincoln had not proclaimed emancipation as he was required to do by the Second Confiscation Act, and asserted that all attempts to put down the rebellion while at the same time upholding slavery were “preposterous and futile.”

Lincoln makes it clear to the public that though he considers his primary constitutional duty to be to save the Union, partial or even total emancipation might well be the necessary means to attain that end.

From Abraham Lincoln to Horace Greeley
[Newspaper Clipping], August 22, 1862


(snip)

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution.

The sooner the national authority can be restored the nearer the Union will be “the Union as it was.”

If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them.
If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. 

My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery.

If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that. 

SOURCE PAGE


37 posted on 12/28/2023 6:35:24 PM PST by justme4now (Our Right's are God given and I don't need permission from politicians or courts to exercise them!)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

So Southern Democrats were fine with Lincoln being elected? They were good with the first Republican (anti-Slavery) President?


39 posted on 12/28/2023 9:14:18 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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