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To: Ultra Sonic 007

you misread and missed my first response to him.

Show me the definition of NBC in the cases. Allegiance to the country is not the same as NBC. Ark was determined to be a natural citizen by virtue of his parents living here. Not a NBC.

I stand by Vattel who was known to the founders and the letter from Jay and washington which I posted a link to.

If a person has a choice of citizenship they are not natural born US because they have a choice. Show me where that is wrong or do you disagree with Wash and Jay who didn’t want a foreigner as commander in chief.

That is my informed decision and that is why I call for a USSC ruling. It is their responsibility to interpret the constiitution


204 posted on 12/28/2023 4:57:20 PM PST by coalminersson (since )
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To: coalminersson
I've posted my definition of "natural born citizen" that uses the words of the Constitution many times before:


The Preamble defines who is a natural-born citizen.
Preamble

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

"We the People" are the citizens of the United States. "Our Posterity" are the natural born who follow -- the children of We the People. The Constitution was "ordained and established" to "secure... Liberty" to its citizens and their children.

Whom else was the Constitution established to secure, if not the citizen People and their citizen children?

How else would the Founders attempt to secure the United States of America if not by limiting the qualifications for the highest office to the People and their Posterity that was the reason for establishing the Constitution in the first place?

That language seems plain enough to me. The whole Constitution must be read within the context of the purpose as stated by the Framers in the Preamble: the Constitution was framed specifically to ensure the country to its people and their children - the natural born of the country.

If you are an alien who becomes a naturalized citizen, you become one of We the People, and then your children that follow become the nation's posterity.

Natural-born citizens are the nation's "posterity" that the Constitution was ordained and established to secure.


-PJ
205 posted on 12/28/2023 5:06:53 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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