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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Read the United States Code regarding "Nationality through Naturalization".

US code doesn't overrule Constitutional law.

Those who already are considered nationals and citizens of the United States due to being born within our country whilst subject to its jurisdiction.

Doesn't change the fact that the 14th amendment *IS* naturalization. Everyone who gains citizenship by it's effect is a naturalized citizen. All those anchor babies are naturalized citizens.

Aldo Mario Bellei was born abroad in Italy (i.e. not within the United States, so the 14th Amendment wouldn't even apply), so his circumstances aren't even relevant to the case of Nikki Haley or Vivek Ramaswamy, who were born in the United States.

I didn't refer to him as a 14th amendment citizen. I referred to him as a "naturalized at birth" citizen.

And I can see you simply skipped right over your research assignment and came straight back to arguing with me without learning what I urged you to go learn.

The 14th is a naturalization amendment. It is not, and nor can it ever be, a replacement for "natural born citizen."

198 posted on 12/28/2023 12:11:25 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; woodpusher; Fury
US code doesn't overrule Constitutional law.

Which aspect of the US Code that I cited conflicts with the Constitution?

And I can see you simply skipped right over your research assignment and came straight back to arguing with me without learning what I urged you to go learn.

Because I've already seen these debates with you on prior threads, and I've come to the conclusion that you have a particular viewpoint you're rather committed to in spite of the plain language of the Amendment itself.

The 14th is a naturalization amendment.

Notwithstanding that the 14th Amendment deals with much more than just citizenship, let's look at the Citizenship Clause as it is written:

14th Amendment, Section 1, Clause 1: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Zoom in.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States"

Increase magnification.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

Enhance.

"All persons born or naturalized"

Enhance again!

"born or naturalized"

You call the 14th Amendment purely a "naturalization amendment", when the Amendment itself explicitly differentiates and distinguishes between citizenship attained by birth and citizenship attained by naturalization.

199 posted on 12/28/2023 12:27:30 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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