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To: xzins; Fury; P-Marlowe; woodpusher
Because her parents were citizens of india.

Yet they did not have immunity; they were subject to America's jurisdiction at the time of Haley's birth.

The parents could have had india demand her presence , and the us could have done nothing.

India would have had to actually try to extradite Haley's parents in order to force them to return, and that's usually only initiated by government authorities due to charging them with an extraditable offense. They wouldn't be able to just come to the USA and say "we want the Haleys" back; without an extraditable offense, the United States is under no obligation to remand to their country of origin those who have lawfully immigrated.

Haley was a legal citizen of india born to 2 citizens of india who were not naturalized usa citizens

She literally isn't. Not only does India's constitution forbid dual citizenship, their Citizenship Act of 1955 explicitly states (under the section regarding Citizenship by Descent) the following: "A minor who is a citizen of India by virtue of this section and is also a citizen of any other country shall cease to be a citizen of India if he does not renounce the citizenship or nationality of another country within six months of attaining full age." In other words, even *if* Haley had obtained citizenship by descent through her father (which still needs to be proven, since her parents would have had to register her birth at an Indian consulate with a specific timeframe after her birth regardless; there would be a record of this), she would have automatically forfeited her Indian citizenship within six months of turning 18, as she was automatically a citizen of the United States by virtue of being born in South Carolina.

Unless you have proof that Haley renounced her American citizenship? If so, let's see it.

Same with ramaswamey, btw.

The same situation that Haley went through applies to Vivek, save for the fact that Vivek's parents immigrated directly to America instead of Canada, as Haley's parents initially did.

Vivek was born in Cincinnati, Ohio. He is an American citizen by birth. If he had, at any point, been considered a citizen of India by descent, he would have had to renounce his American citizenship within 6 months of turning 18. As far as we know, that didn't happen.

Therefore, in virtue of America's laws, and the laws of India, Haley and Vivek are not Indian citizens. And for all we know, if their parents never registered their birth at at a diplomatic consulate, they might have never been citizens of India.

End of story.

190 posted on 12/28/2023 9:42:09 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Vivek was born in Cincinnati, Ohio. He is an American citizen by birth.

14th amendment citizen, meaning naturalized at birth.

Not the same as "natural born."

But it's not going to matter, the courts believe the common fallacy and they won't change.

194 posted on 12/28/2023 10:08:31 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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