Posted on 12/17/2023 9:33:33 AM PST by Navy Patriot
estern officials have become concerned over the prospect of a lack of action by the US Congress to fund military aid to Ukraine, fearing that Kyiv might only be able to fight on its own for a few months without it and support from other Western countries.
Source: CNN, citing "multiple US and European officials", as reported by European Pravda
Details: CNN says Western intelligence services are now considering how long Ukraine can endure without US and NATO assistance. One senior US military official claimed it could be "months," with the worst-case scenario being "a significant setback or even defeat" by the summer of 2024.
"There is no guarantee of success with us, but they [Ukrainians] are certain to fail without us," a senior US military official told CNN.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
Who woulda thunk it?
"Winning" is so-o-o-o-o middle of the last century.
Historic, compelling evidence WRT Ukraine’s 2016 election interference (Ukraine denigrating Trump so as to advance Hillary’s candidacy), shows the US-taxpayer financed “Russian/Ukraine hostilities” in an entirely new light.
BACKSTORY Ukraine Tried to Tip the 2016 Trump/Hillary Election in Clinton’s Favor
Evidence reveals Ukraine intervened to tilt the election in favor of its own national interests
observer.com, By Michael Sainato, 01/12/17
EDITED—Politico reported the Ukrainian Government dedicatedly worked to aid Hillary Clinton’s
2016 presidential bid. The shocking actions taken by the Ukranian government officials included:
<><>disseminating false govt documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption,
<><>Ukraine first announcing they were investigating the matter,
<><>then nervously backing off after Trump defeated Hillary
<><>Ukraine helping Clinton allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers.
The supposedly incriminating Ukraine government documents Ukraine officials brought forth implicated Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, who once worked as an adviser for now-ousted Ukrainian President Viktor F. Yanukovych.
However, the concerns that the Ukranian documents raised weren’t over any quasi-Russian ties that the partisan MSM rigorously reported, pushing this narrative 24/7. Rather, the dubious documents raised question about “declared income” that only the Ukraine government was ostensibly privy to WRT Manafort.
The Podesta Group, a notorious lobbying firm co-founded by Clinton Campaign Chair John Podesta, also conducted work for the Ukranian president Yanukovych but that was studiously ignored by Ukraine. The Ukranian narrative sought to not only paint Trump as “pro-Russian,” but also to provide the Clinton campaign with a Ukranian wholly invented “Trump smear campaign” which helpfully reaffirmed Ukraine’s stance “against Russia,” and which earned Ukraine billions in US tax dollars.
It was in Ukraine’s best interest to tilt the election in support of Clinton, b/c she strongly advocated for providing Ukraine with billions of US tax dollars in military aid and financial support in order “to assist Ukraine fight Russian separatists” then-operating in the Ukraine. Which presents the more recent US financed “Russian invasion of Ukraine” in an entirely new light.
Politico noted that Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American working as a consultant for DNC, met with top Ukrainian Officials in Washington D.C. about “forcing” Manafort’s resignation with the goal of cementing the Ukraine/Hillary narrative that Trump was “connected” to Russia.
Manafort was subsequently jailed and slapped into solitary confinement due to Ukranian efforts to aid Hillary.
Both Ukranians—— Chalupa, and her sister Andrea—— have strongly pushed the anti-Russian narrative on social media.
Shockingly, the Ukranian sisters also advocated that the state electors of “the US electoral college defect from Trump.” The Chalupas’ outrageous shady elector gambit was ignored but Trump was said to have an “illegal elector scheme.”
The report added, “Politico’s investigation found evidence of Ukrainian government involvement in the Trump/Hillary 2016 race strains diplomatic protocol dictating that governments refrain from engaging in one another’s elections.”
In addition to the Chalupas, the co-founder and CTO of Crowdstrike, the cyber security firm that the DNC hired to investigate alleged hacks, Dmitri Alperovitch, also serves as a senior fellow to the Washington-based think tank Atlantic Council, Ukranian-funded, which is an openly anti-Russian organization.
The Atlantic Council is funded by Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk, who is one of the most prolific donors to the Clinton Foundation. The DNC denied multiple requests from the FBI to access their servers, effectively forcing the FBI to rely on CrowdStrike’s assessment of the hacks.
The Ukranian-centered Atlantic Council has propagated anti-Russian sentiment and advocated for bolstering NATO forces in anticipation of a Ukranian military conflict with Russia long before Wikileaks released emails from the DNC and Clinton Campaign Manager John Podesta.
In 2013, the Ukranian-funded Atlantic Council awarded Hillary Clinton its Distinguished International Leadership Award. In 2014, the Ukranian-focused Atlantic Council hosted one of several events with former Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who took over after pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych’s 2014 removal.
In August 2015, Politico was apparently cued to report that “Donald Trump’s favorable rhetoric to Russia was concerning to Ukraine.” The article stated, “Russia wants Trump for U.S. president; Ukraine is terrified by Trump and prefers Hillary Clinton.”
In response to their preferred candidate losing the election, Ukrainian officials were now scrambling to revert from their lobbying for Hillary Clinton and the DNC.
<><>Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko rushed to sign a $50,000-a-month contract with a US lobbying firm to set up meetings with US officials in the new Trump administration.
<><>Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk, who paid Hillary to come to Ukraine for a speech, now sang a different tune and wrote an WSJ op-ed Dec 29 to argue that Ukraine needs “to make compromises” to establish peace with Russia.
<><>Post-election, Ukranian Pinchuk donated to Trump’s charity to try to gain the same favor and access that his donations to the “Clinton Foundation” afforded him.
<><>“The sole reason the Victor Pinchuk Foundation has reached out to President-elect Trump—as well as other world leaders—has been to promote strengthened and enduring ties between Ukraine and the West,” a spokeswoman for the Pinchuk foundation told ABC News with a straight face.
While past elections in Ukraine have been viewed as proxy battles between the US and Russia, it appears that the 2016 US presidential election faced a barrage of shady influence from Ukraine——which is a beneficiary of billions of US tax dollars——attempting to influence an election outcome biased for Ukraine’s national interests.
It now appears Ukraine’s election interference was based on Ukraine hungering after US foreign aid .....from 2015 up to and including the “Russian invasion,” and onto Ukraine’s 2023 beg-a-thons for US tax dollars.
They’re losing the war with NATO assistance.
In fact, they’re losing the war BECAUSE of NATO “assistance.”
Ukraine was a black box of Russian corruption for a decade or more, and the West/NATO/Globalists simply turned it into a black-box of American corruption after the Maidan Coup.
Major US political scandals of the last 8 years ALL have roots in Ukraine - from fake “Russia-gate,” to Crowdstrike/DNC server and Seth Rich, to Hunter Biden’s corruption, to Vindman/Pelosi’s fake “impeachment.”
Ukraine, as presently organized, is a CANCER on the US body politic. The sooner it is removed, the better.
If the definition of “lost” is failure to return to the status ante bellum then Ukraine has already lost. The Russians have dug in to their territory and Ukraine will be unable to dislodge them no matter how many more billions in arms are sent.
They already lost some time ago.
Yep.
Amen.
Agreed.
“If the definition of “lost” is failure to return to the status ante bellum then Ukraine has already lost. The Russians have dug in to their territory and Ukraine will be unable to dislodge them no matter how many more billions in arms are sent.”
They’re only holding out because they’re hoping we will get in the fight. Notice how they did nothing to defend the Crimea and never tried or even talked about getting it back until we started backing them.
There's just no telling how clever "little Pukin" is to acquire so many voices "shilling" for all this.
And how unhappy the shift in the narrative will make one who posted to a thread, "I would rather the world end in nuclear war than yield to Little Pukin."
And I went to so much effort to source Ukranski Pravda, Darn!
“They already lost some time ago.”
They secured their independence. All that is left is determining where the borders will be.
:)
It seems the only question now is how much more Ukrainian territory the Russians will take control over; they will allow Ukraine to sacrifice their military as long as they want until Ukraine can’t defend themselves, that will come much sooner if the money flow stops.
So by “assistance” they seem to be implying direct US involvement in the war fighting ie. boots on the ground or at in the air. Otherwise Biden’s dirty secrets go public.
The USA/NATO shouldn’t have broken up the peace agreement both parties were ready to sign to end Ukraine shelling of Russian speaking civilians in Ukraine. Too late now, Ukraine is ravaged. Trillions of dollars gone and hundreds of thousands of lives ended to suit the purposes of power-playing countries who had no right to get involved.
Ukraine lost the war before it started
Ol Vlad was never gonna stop.
He’d nuke it before he let it go NATO.
** and Finland kind of doesn’t matter anymore. It’ll be another NATO Welfare vaccuum instead of a Russian trading partner.
You weren't supposed to have noticed that.
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