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To: Big Red Badger; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; BlueDragon; boatbums; bonfire; Bulwyf; ..
Maybe they though TradCaths means RadCaths who take past doctrine applicable today, meaning the Catholic ruler does not have to obeyed.

Secular authorities, whatever office they may hold, shall be admonished and induced and if necessary compelled by ecclesiastical censure, that as they wish to be esteemed and numbered among the faithful, so for the defense of the faith they ought publicly to take an oath that they will strive in good faith and to the best of their ability to exterminate in the territories subject to their jurisdiction all heretics pointed out by the Church; so that whenever anyone shall have assumed authority, whether spiritual or temporal, let him be bound to confirm this decree by oath.
But if a temporal ruler, after having been requested and admonished by the Church, should neglect to cleanse his territory of this heretical foulness, let him be excommunicated by the metropolitan and the other bishops of the province. If he refuses to make satisfaction within a year, let the matter be made known to the supreme pontiff, that he may declare the ruler’s vassals absolved from their allegiance and may offer the territory to be ruled lay Catholics, who on the extermination of the heretics may possess it without hindrance and preserve it in the purity of faith; the right, however, of the chief ruler is to be respected as long as he offers no obstacle in this matter and permits freedom of action. - Canons of the Ecumenical Fourth Lateran Council (canon 3), 1215: (https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/basis/lateran4.asp )

20 posted on 12/06/2023 2:38:41 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212

A very good case can be made that “heretical foulness” can be interpreted as referring to the various perversions that have inserted themselves into our governance.

Exterminating those would go a long way towards cleansing the social order.


25 posted on 12/06/2023 5:16:45 PM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all antisemites)
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To: daniel1212
What's wrong with that? All legitimate authority comes from God.

The perfectly legitimate public authority of the Church

27 posted on 12/06/2023 7:42:06 PM PST by ebb tide
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