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To: ChicagoConservative27
All voting rat.

Most, but definitely not all.

This is the new reality and we can sit around and wine about it or use it to our advantage.

I am of the belief that conservative ideas can be very appealing to new citizens.

I never believed for a second that the majority of Mexican immigrants supported open borders because I have known so many of them. It was nothing more than the media, Dem/Rino narrative so they could move their agenda forward.

These new citizens have gone through the legal process to naturalize and have skin in the game. Many if not most fled third world crap holes and have no interest in seeing the same thing happen to their new country.

Conservatism is not a hard sell because it logical. We would be foolish if not counter productive to get mad and seed this new demographic to the satanic left.

Trany drag shows for kids, groomers, abortion, DEI, CRT and may others leftwing absolutes are not popular with new immigrants. These are white liberal constructs and as such make no sense to practical people.

The votes are out there but I expect the GOPe will willing seed them to the left to avoid the ever so burdensome responsibilities of leadership.

24 posted on 11/25/2023 11:24:13 AM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: usurper

Agreed. Just tell them the truth. We have the same values.

“Why did you leave your country and become an American citizen? Freedom? Safety? Opportunity? Those are your values and they are ours too. This is what we stand for. This is our commitment to all citizens. Join us.”


27 posted on 11/25/2023 11:51:22 AM PST by LucienCA13 (sorry if you are microaggrieved)
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To: usurper

“Trany drag shows for kids, groomers, abortion, DEI, CRT and may others leftwing absolutes are not popular with new immigrants. “


Those things were not popular even with white liberals 30-40 years ago.

But decades of Left control of institutions has propagandized the population so that many now love this stuff.

Even easier with foreign immigrants. They don’t have a background in free societies, many are not Christian, and they are learning how to fit in with their new country. And every institution is telling them, LGBT, DEI, CRT, diversity, open borders. etc.


41 posted on 11/25/2023 1:13:22 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: usurper
I am of the belief that conservative ideas can be very appealing to new citizens.

I do not share that optimistic opinion.

I have heard it claimed for decades, but I never see it happening in numbers that make a difference. The exceptions do not "prove the rule"; it is the averages which count.

We have a welfare state and that quickly destroys incentives for immigrants to have conservative ideals. The appeal of "free stuff" quickly beats the appeal of conservative anything.

People are instinctively tribal and xenophobic. People want free stuff. They don't care where it comes from as long as they get their share of the swag. After that, they certainly do want to keep their stuff and they want the government to leave them alone as much as possible. That gives them a superficial appearance of being conservative, but they are not.

They will back whatever the government wants to do as long as they keep getting stuff from the government. That is why governments promote immigration so vigorously. It creates a dependent clientele, which can be used however the rulers wish to use them. And it reduces the power of the native population to resist the impositions of the rulers.

A great many "Conservatives" are not really conservative either. They are just grifters who cannot make it as Leftists.

Immigrants will not be persuaded by logical propositions. They will follow their base instincts and prejudices - just like the rest of us do. Getting their support and votes requires understanding those prejudices and taking advantage of them.

Leftists are really good at that. "Conservatives" are not. That is why the Leftists win.

53 posted on 11/25/2023 4:27:16 PM PST by flamberge (Everybody is going to hate it when we all play by the same "rules".)
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To: usurper
Lol, sure. Complex moral philosophical ideas are readily absorbed by 80 IQ illiterates from 3rd World hellholes.

Are you high?

55 posted on 11/25/2023 4:34:05 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: usurper
And by the way, why are the places they are fleeing 3rd world hellholes?

Geography? Climate? Solar rays?

Just like politics is downstream of culture, culture is nothing more than a collective expression of individual character and integrity.

56 posted on 11/25/2023 4:39:28 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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