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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
The wiggle words are expected when the reporter is working with third hand information.

First hand information is tough in this war. As I recall, it is a very dangerous war for reporters.

37 posted on 11/20/2023 9:39:26 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
--- "First hand information is tough in this war. As I recall, it is a very dangerous war for reporters."

Care to document where this reporter is, "working with third hand information?"

By way of comparison, ISW reports from Washington DC, while YouTube reports with third hand information post daily from the US, Switzerland, Azerbaijan and far from Ukraine. The RAND posts third had information from Santa Monica.

Both Russia and Ukraine had made firsthand reporting from anywhere near the front line almost impossible. Meanwhile, one watches daily first hand reporting from Gaza. So very different.

"As of 16 May 2023, at least 17 civilian journalists and media workers have been killed in the line of duty since the Russo-Ukrainian War began in 2014. Six have been Russian, four Ukrainian, one Italian, one American, one Lithuanian, one Irish and two French."

List of journalists killed during the Russo-Ukrainian War

Quite unlike the above, one reads Gaza is far more dangerous for journalists:

"As of November 20, CPJ’s preliminary investigations showed at least 50 journalists and media workers were among the more than 14,000 killed since the war began on October 7—with over 12,000 Palestinian deaths in Gaza and the West Bank and 1,200 deaths in Israel. The second-deadliest day for journalist deaths occurred on November 18, with five killed; the deadliest day of the war was its first day, October 7, with 6 journalists killed."

Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

We see firsthand reporting from Gaza on all the major channels, and almost no firsthand reporting from the Ukraine-Russia war. Hands down, Gaza is at the same time more deadly and more open and transparent.

17 in nine years for the Ukraine-Russia war, and "over 50" in the last few weeks from Gaza.

38 posted on 11/20/2023 2:46:53 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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