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To: Jonty30

“If you want to believe that the most evil belief system becomes a good system, because Jews that rejected the Torah adopted it, go ahead and believe that.”

Your animosity towards Jews is well established here on FR.

In any event, as per your comment as directed at me; I have said previously: You assume facts not in evidence, jump to conclusions, and rush to judgment. All telltale signs of someone who has no logical or supportable argument to put forth.

“According to your thinking, the 250 million murdered, the over a billion enslaved, the over 2 billion children aborted and the majority of major wars started were all good acts because some Jews became liberal.”

Again, with the Jews. Seriously, you are unhinged. And you introduce so many logical fallacies as to render your comments absurd and meaningless.

“If you don’t vote Democrat in the next election than you are a liar.”

Nice try, kid. I don’t vote Democrat. I’ve been a registered Republican since I first became eligible to vote (in my day that was at 21; I am now in my 70s).

“Yes, NATO was created as a response to counter the Soviet aggression.”

You admit it! Will wonders never cease?

“The Russians are no longer Soviets.”

The Russians are still Russians; and the USSR was created by and existed solely because of Russia and Russians; Moscow and Russia controlled the USSR, and nothing the USSR ever did or didn’t do was without Russian approval.

“Now, they are just nationalistic wanting to protect Russian ethnics.”

Ah, the old Sudetenland excuse, and the excuse to start WWII with the invasion of Poland in 1939 (which, in case you didn’t know, was a concerted invasion by Nazi Germany AND its ally, the USSR; and the USSR remained Germany’s ally up until Germany invaded the USSR on June 22, 1941).

Russia used the exact same excuse to invade its neighbor Geogia in 2008.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

“Again, you are referring to the Soviet Union. Russian intentions have changed over 30 years. They are no longer socialist.”

Now they are fascists — specifically, embracing a national socialism (does that term ring a bell for you?) — which is just socialism with snappier uniforms (but in Russia’s case, they executed all the proficient tailors after WWII, and have been stuck with the bland and ill-fitting uniforms they have historically sported; but, they do love their medals, and Russian officers can still be seen bedecked with gaudy ribbons and over-sized medals the weight of which causes the afflicted wearer to walk lop-sidedly).

“The typical Russian is probably more free in Russian than conservatives are in America.”

Nonsense. It is illegal in Russia to refer to the Russo-Ukrainian war as...a war

“NATO was stocked with German Nazi members. Did you know that?”

There were some; just as some were in the Warsaw Pact.


204 posted on 11/21/2023 3:35:05 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

My animosity is towards who is liberal. I don’t care about anything else about the person. You’re playing the same card that liberals play, when they accuse their opponents of racism because they can’t win an arguement. Calling me anti-semitism a million times does not make it so.

No. What is well established is my anti-liberalism and that I believe liberalism makes people evil, regardless of anything else. Jews are not totems that contain the power of God by virtue of being Jewish. They have to follow the Torah or their acts will be evil acts.

The 250 million people is the estimated number of those who were killed during the 2oth century by the progressives.

This number includes the dead from the wars they started to impose progressivism worldwide.

The over billion enslaved are the approximate numbers that had to live in socialist nations, like Russia and China and North Vietnam. If you lived in these countries, you were a slave to the government.

Most of the 20th century wars were started by the socialists, to impose socialistm.

Do I need to tell you why I hold liberals responsible for the abortions that have taken place since the 20th century?

Again, I only say liberal Jews, because I mean Jews who walked aware from their relationship with God by rejecting the Torah. They adopted socialism as a substitution instead. They also hate Israel as much as anybody on the left hates Israel.

You’re the one equating my viewpoint with all Jews, when I have made it clear that it is only Jews, and everybody, who has adopted liberalism for their politics. You can’t be a liberal without supporting evil. Find a liberal and you’ll find an evil person. It’s that simple and that easy.

You may not vote Democrat, but I bet you want to.

I admit that NATO was started to counter the Soviet Union. It was to counter Russia itself. Those who maintain that Russia is still an enemy are just trying to keep their jobs.

It was also started because the Western leaders decided to use fascism to counter the Soviet Union. Yes, the West has become more fascist over time, including calling people anti-semitic to try and shut them up.

See, you would be fine with genociding the Russians, just because they are Russians. What do you call somebody who wants a people wiped out because of unchangeable qualities about themselves?

No. Russians are nationalists and centro-ethnicists. We are the fascists. The West adopted fascism because we didn’t think classical liberalism could hold up against the Soviet Union. Eisenhower talked about this in his final speech. He was making it clear that fascism infiltrated the West and took over our institutions. His speech was not just about the military-complex. He made it clear that any combination of government and privated enterprise resulted in fascism.

The average Russian is more free in Russia than we are in America. They don’t shut people down with unconventional views by calling them racists and anti-semetics and try to get them cancelled

This ain’t the 1970’s anymore and Russia is no longer that enemy that the left wants them to be. They have legitimate concerns and listening to those concerns might have avoided a war.

We are also the ones that backed the fascists in Ukraine.

https://youtu.be/JZPW9cqG1_M


206 posted on 11/21/2023 5:10:51 PM PST by Jonty30 (It turns out that I did not buy my cell phone for all the calls I might be missing at home.)
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