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1 posted on 11/19/2023 4:58:01 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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2 posted on 11/19/2023 4:59:17 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Tom Cotton on Maria's show...


9 posted on 11/19/2023 5:35:48 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
here's one from the Mises institute that I posted a little earlier on the Q thread.

If you thought the open border was waaay too much check this one out from a brilliant institution that usually always gets it right:

The Mises institute.

https://mises.org/wire/youre-paying-israel-war-youll-also-pay-refugees

You're Paying for the Israel War. You'll Also Pay for the Refugees.

11/14/2023Ryan McMaken

The United States regime has picked sides in the Israel-Hamas war and has committed to funding Israel's ongoing bombing of non-combatant men, women, and children in the Gaza strip. Northern Gaza's infrastructure is now all but destroyed, with millions of Gazans displaced and homeless. Nearly ten times more Gazans than Israelis have now died in the conflict. Many Gazans have fled to the southern portion of Gaza, but homelessness and abject poverty awaits them there.

By employing what is essentially the carpet-bombing approach, Tel Aviv has made the choice of adopting a policy that is sure to produce hundreds of thousands of refugees—or perhaps even more than a million. Indeed, many in the Israeli regime are motivated to maximize refugees, and push Gazans out of the country altogether using the Orwellian phrase "voluntary migration."

On a military, tactical level, the Israeli state will have no problem accomplishing this. Tel Aviv has an air force, a deep reservoir of American-funded weapons, and a nuclear arsenal. The Israeli military can easily reduce all of Gaza to rubble. But what is sure to result from this is a humanitarian disaster accompanied by a global debate over which foreign country will host the refugees.

Israeli mouthpieces are already at work pushing the cost onto foreign taxpayers, including American ones. This week, two Israeli politicians—one from the militarist Likud party, and one from the center-left Yesh Atid party—took to the pages of The Wall Street Journal to demand that "countries around the world should offer a haven for Gaza residents who seek relocation." According to these politicians, "[t]he international community"—i.e., not Israel—"has a moral imperative" to resettle Gazans somewhere outside Israel at not-Israel's expense.

It is significant these claims appeared in an American publication. Tel Aviv is the latest welfare-queen regime—in the tradition of Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky—repeatedly haranguing the American public with demands for free money. It's no coincidence that Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu is now seemingly ubiquitous on American prime-time news programs. His primary job right now is to demand money and favors from Washington and from other Western regimes.

It will probably work. Americans should get ready for plane-loads of Gaza refugees arriving in their cities, funded by the American taxpayers who can now barely afford to keep up with the price of groceries. This will be sold as a "humanitarian" effort, but anyone who sees through the propaganda will see that it's really all a cynical effort to please pro-Israel interest groups and Israeli politicians.

A Pattern of War and Refugees This was all predictable from the minute the war started last month.

The US and its allies have settled into a predictable pattern in foreign policy over the past thirty years:

force the taxpayers to pay for the regime's wars which involve bombing various poor foreign countries "back into the stone age." Then, once the refugees start pouring out—and the Americans have lost the war, of course—Western regimes then tell the taxpayers back home to cough up even more money to pay for resettlement of all those refugees whose countries were needlessly destroyed by the bombs dropped by Washington and its allies.

This is no small phenomenon. A 2020 report from Brown University estimated that 37 million people have been made refugees by the US-led "War on Terrorism." By 2016, 5.2 million of them reached Europe. In 2022 alone, more than 159,000 refugees arrived by sea in Italy, Greece, Spain, Cyprus, and Malta. Thousands more arrive at the land borders of the EU every year.

Thanks to the distance from western Asia and North Africa, refugees totals have been smaller in the United States. Nonetheless, the total number of refugees has ranged from 50,000 to 90,000 per year in most years since the US began its war in Afghanistan. This has transformed a number of communities in the United States, however, since refugees often tend to concentrate in specific places along ethnic or religious lines. In the decades of the US's endless on-again, off-again military meddling in Somalia, tens of thousands of Somali refugees have been relocated to Minnesota at taxpayers' expense. Since 2018, Minnesota has hosted more than 40,000 Somalia-born migrants (many classified as refugees). Most of the refugees, of course, are concentrated within Minneapolis' metro population of only 3.5 million. In democracies, this has political consequences.

It is also important to remember that migrants who enjoy the legal status of refugees are not normal immigrants. Ordinary immigrants arrive at the United States at their own expense. The vast majority must find work on their own if they wish to have an income. They are eligible for few social benefits. Those seeking legal residency, of course, must go through a lengthy administrative process. For example, Mexicans who obtain a work visa in the United States have to work. They don't show up and receive "free" help from government-funded refugee agencies in finding jobs, apartments, and other government freebies.

In contrast, all of that is fast-tracked for people labeled "refugee" by the federal government, and most of these refugees are immediately eligible for a wide array of taxpayer funded benefits. In total, this(refugee status) all costs the taxpayers nearly two billion dollars per year, or $80,000 per refugee per year in the form of federal and state programs including food stamps, child care, and public housing.

It's not enough that you pay for the bombs that create the refugees, dear American taxpayer. You'll also have to pay to resettle those refugees in your town.

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I guess 52 million illegals already here are not enough we need another million or so of the worst terrorists and their families here as well.

Ironically,in some areas of the country this will go unnoticed since the vote will be about abortion.NOt whether or not they can have an abortion like the fake dem ads say but rather the truth which is:

how convenient or inconvenient it is for those women who insist on killing their babies to have an abortion!!

1,765 posted on 11/19/2023, 8:02:31 AM

by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)

12 posted on 11/19/2023 5:46:43 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)
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To: Alas Babylon!
All of the Propaganda channels are ignoring the NEWS of the Week - release of the J6 Tapes

Wondering as to who and when we will start seeing the reality of the J6 "insurrection"

22 posted on 11/19/2023 6:16:33 AM PST by DanZ
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To: Alas Babylon!
Hiya, AB! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!

I don't think we'll hear anything today about Jimmie Gardner, BIL of Stacie Abrams, husband of US District Court Judge Leslie Abrams-Gardener, and a "youth motivational speaker."

Jimmie Gardener was arrested early Friday morning in Tampa and charged with felony human trafficking for commercial activity (victim less than 18), lewd or lascivious touching of a minor 16-17 years of age, and battery.

Saturday, Gardner was released on $500,000 bond Saturday evening. His wife, Judge Leslie Gardner-Abrams was present during the Saturday morning hearing.

Jimmie Gardner, who grew up Baptist, found Islam while in prison. Gardner was previously exonerated for the 1987 sexual assault of two women, according to officials who said it was a wrongful conviction.

23 posted on 11/19/2023 6:17:01 AM PST by NautiNurse (🇺🇸)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Sen. (of all things )chris coons, rabid dem from dullllaware, singing the usual song of govt. control of everything no matter what it is.

He wants the US to "stand strong behind Ukraine" tying to equate it with Israel.

The dirty dems can't stand even the thought that the ukrainian laundry that feeds them so well could end. Shannon says ukraine funding might be coupled with the border homeland committee says the border is a disaster. coons wants to strike a balance of protecting those oppressed *(four billion at last count) with the endless open borders. that's newspeak for we will talk the issue to death until the elections.he want's more border agents not a border wall. What a huge a-holllll. He wants asylum protected,which is key for more child and drug smuggling across an open border. These guys are new-speak/dem-chat experts but they all have one thing in common; THEY LIE THEIR ASSES OFF 24/7

coons now saying elections matter:code for:

we can still cheat our way to victory forever. This guy is an insane liberal who talks BS over and over.

25 posted on 11/19/2023 6:23:35 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)
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To: Alas Babylon!
From a thread that has been closed down by moderators but not removed from FR: Millennial and Gen-Z women say they've been inspired to convert to Islam by the Israel-Hamas war - and are sharing their religious awakenings on TikTok.

Recent converts say the conflict, which began with the murder of 1,200 Israelis on October 7, become a driving factor for their decision to join the Muslim faith.

Experts suggested for many, the choice is the 'ultimate rebellion against the West'.

This is the sort of thing that should be posted on Tik-Tok, but with an added comment: "Full conversion to Islam requires a permanent relocation to an Islamic country. Anything less would be an insult to all Islamics" in big bold letters.

32 posted on 11/19/2023 6:38:52 AM PST by Bernard (We honor veterans who fought to keep this country from turning into what it now is. --Argus Hamilton)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Tiffany Smiley on the FNC panel fooled Shannon and gave a conservative view of things, scared them.Smiley got the "look"!

back to juannnnnn more like it for FNC,go to the lowest quotient possible, idiot Juan. Juan doesn't want to talk about open borders only about counting them,true idiot! Even Rove knows better. In true lib fashion juan wont shut up.

33 posted on 11/19/2023 6:42:45 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican presidential candidate;

Make sure all donuts are locked up!!

Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn.

Will he be interviewed about the damaged he cause to UConn football by sueing the ACC when he was AG of Connecticut?

40 posted on 11/19/2023 6:52:11 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Guns don't kill people, LIBERALS DO!! Support the Second Amendment...)
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To: Alas Babylon!
In case you missed it. Army and Navy recruitment is way down. Now, DOD is offering those who were cashiered out for not taking the vaccine a way back as well as correcting their personnel files. No back pay however.


48 posted on 11/19/2023 7:18:32 AM PST by kabar
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