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Starship test flight makes progress, but ship and booster explode
France 24 ^

Posted on 11/18/2023 7:38:57 AM PST by FarCenter

The second test launch of SpaceX's Starship got off to a successful start Saturday, with the booster separating from the spaceship, but both then exploded shortly after over the ocean.

"Such an incredibly successful day," a SpaceX announcer said. "Even though we did have a… rapid unscheduled disassembly of both the Super Heavy Booster and the ship."

The largest rocket ever built -- Elon Musk hopes it will one day be used to colonize Mars -- blasted off from the company's Starbase in Boca Chica, Texas shortly after 7:00 am local.

Unlike the previous such attempt in April, the booster rocket separated successfully from the mega ship, but then blew up, followed shortly by the spaceship itself.

Bill Nelson, head of the NASA space agency, which is awaiting a modified version of Starship to land humans on the Moon, said Saturday's attempt showed progress.

"Congrats to the teams who made progress on today's flight test," he said on X, formerly Twitter. "Spaceflight is a bold adventure demanding a can-do spirit and daring innovation. Today's test is an opportunity to learn -- then fly again."

"It was a fantastic partial success," space scientist Laura Forczyk told AFP. "It surpassed my expectations."

Compared to the first attempt to fly the spaceship in its fully stacked configuration back in April, Spaceship made it further into flight Saturday, with the booster breaking away from the ship before disintegrating.

"As you could see, the Super Heavy Booster has just experienced a rapid unscheduled disassembly; however, our ship is still underway," an announcer said.

As the booster fell off, the upper stage started what was meant to be a partial trip around the Earth -- it was scheduled to fall into the Pacific Ocean near Hawaii after 90 minutes -- but it too blew up.

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KEYWORDS: 1rapid; 2unscheduled; 3disassembly; elonmusk; spacex; starlink; tesla
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To: PIF

The cheer-leading irritates me.

I would rather they under promised and over delivered.


41 posted on 11/18/2023 8:59:12 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: BereanBrain

I am ready to cheer and congratulate them when the time is right—when they put men on the moon and on Mars.

Until then—it is all premature press releases and cheerleading.


42 posted on 11/18/2023 9:00:45 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: rarestia
This was a wildly successful launch all things considered.

Absolutely agree !
I'm no rocket surgeon, but I sure do enjoy these SpaceX threads for all the expertise they attract from y'all !

43 posted on 11/18/2023 9:01:34 AM PST by tomkat
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To: BereanBrain

Just for your awareness, that individual insists that NASA never landed men on the Moon. Teddy Roosevelt had him nailed.


44 posted on 11/18/2023 9:07:45 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: cgbg

Receipts.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/02/elon-musk-says-spacex-driving-toward-orbital-starship-flight-in-2020/


45 posted on 11/18/2023 9:09:10 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: NorthMountain

Well I know for sure Elon Musk never landed on the moon.

This thread reminds me of twelve year old boys talking about their latest “adventures”.

“I walked up to the girl and she actually said hello to me and smiled. Then I tripped on the chair and fell on my face. Success!”

lol.


46 posted on 11/18/2023 9:10:16 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: cgbg

I think SpaceX is delivering astronauts to iss regularly but NASA big contractors can’t even test yet. You are a know nothing complainer.


47 posted on 11/18/2023 9:12:50 AM PST by wgmalabama (Censored )
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To: cgbg

Yep ... POTUS26 had your kind nailed.


48 posted on 11/18/2023 9:18:57 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SamAdams76

Yep, space is hard, braying couch commandos should look up years of NASA failures in late 50s, early 60s, nothing came easy


49 posted on 11/18/2023 9:21:06 AM PST by baclava
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To: wgmalabama
I think SpaceX is delivering astronauts to iss

12 Crew Dragon launches since 2020.

50 posted on 11/18/2023 9:22:51 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Yes. I know but a certain poster was talking about dead astronauts due to SpaceX. Wow. Really, should we discount the test to fail of the falcon or the billion dollar starlink, iss missions, lowest cost to orbit by a giant proportion….

Starship will be doing amazing things in my lifetime and I don’t plan on being around that long.


51 posted on 11/18/2023 9:26:32 AM PST by wgmalabama (Censored )
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To: cgbg

I would rather they under promised and over delivered.


They did exactly that; you do not understand Raid Prototyping to Failure. Its not the old school NASA testing regimen.


52 posted on 11/18/2023 9:29:59 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: rarestia

Video of stage separation. Separation was successful. Booster appeared to not have all engines re-ignite for descent.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1725863437887242515


53 posted on 11/18/2023 9:35:35 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: wgmalabama

Perhaps I misunderstood ... You seemed uncertain about Crew Dragon; I provided certainty. Apologies for the confusion.

Yes ... SpaceX is performing remarkably well. They have a ewetewb video titled “How NOT To Land an Orbital Rocket Booster” or similar. It’s a potent reminder that engineering success is built upon learning the hard way. Rules of engineering are often written in blood.

To go back more than a century ... Orville and Wilbur didn’t invent powered heavier-than-air flight from nothing, in a societal vacuum. They built upon the learning of others ... some of whom they corresponded with, some of whom were unavailable for correspondence.

As for Starship ... apparently, they lost comms and detonated it with the range safety package. That’s unfortunate ... it appeared to have reached the intended suborbital trajectory.


54 posted on 11/18/2023 9:37:28 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: BereanBrain

“Literally they are approaching 1000 times less costly than NASA.”

And when Starship finally works, it will GREATLY reduce cost per ton to orbit.


55 posted on 11/18/2023 9:38:22 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Interesting. The outer ring of engines was probably NOT INTENDED to fire. The inner engines ... that’s a strange pattern. I’d like to see which engines were supposed to fire.


56 posted on 11/18/2023 9:39:43 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SauronOfMordor
And when Starship finally works, it will GREATLY reduce cost per ton to orbit.

Yes ... if you have enough "stuff" to fill the thing. There will continue to be a market for medium and small launch vehicles. Rocket Lab, for example, is doing quite well in the small launch market.

57 posted on 11/18/2023 9:41:48 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
Thanks for posting those quotes from the lengthy famous TR speech.

All those criticizing this test launch of Starship are indeed those timid souls, criticizing from the safety of their couches and recliners while real men do the work that must be done to move our society forward.

Those who criticize this test launch are representative of our weakest men. Fortunately for them, there are men stronger than they who continue to push progress and mankind forward.

58 posted on 11/18/2023 9:44:50 AM PST by SamAdams76 (6,390,901 Truth | 86,874,940 Twitter)
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To: FarCenter

A successful failure. Only the government can do this.


59 posted on 11/18/2023 9:47:02 AM PST by DownInFlames (p)
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To: cgbg

SpaceX is aiming to launch 100 rockets this year, another big increase from what the company did in 2022. That will mean they will have to launch on average every three to four days. Will SpaceX be able to pull it off? Keep track below of all of SpaceX’s 2023 launches.

How many rockets has SpaceX launched in 2023?
So far, SpaceX has launched 86 rockets in 2023, 80 Falcon 9s, four Falcon Heavies, and two Starships.

https://spaceexplored.com/2023/11/18/spacex-launches-2023/


60 posted on 11/18/2023 9:50:32 AM PST by TexasGator
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