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What This Pro-Life Ohioan Learned From Losing To Pro-Abortion Radicals in the November 2023 Referendum
The Federalist ^ | 11/16/2023 | ASHLEY K. FERNANDES

Posted on 11/16/2023 10:08:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/16/2023 10:08:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

We shall see if our side learned any lessons. If they didn’t, well, President Gavin Newsom should be a real treat!


2 posted on 11/16/2023 10:15:40 AM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't get it. The whole point of a republic is to have elected representatives craft laws.

Letting the mob rule via referenda is un-American and crazy. It's crazier than unopposed Rat rule or straight up Commie rule.

3 posted on 11/16/2023 10:25:17 AM PST by caddie
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To: SeekAndFind

People in general are not inherently good?


4 posted on 11/16/2023 10:25:54 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you for posting this article.


5 posted on 11/16/2023 10:32:40 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A weakened United States is easier to compete with or conquer.


6 posted on 11/16/2023 10:32:47 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: SeekAndFind

“ Wednesday-morning quarterbacks will also say we lost because Ohio’s six-week ban on abortion (the Heartbeat Law), which allowed no exceptions for rape or incest, was “too extreme.” ”

Yes they are correct and the author is wrong. I’m not saying it’s too extreme for me I’m saying it’s too extreme for millions of yuppy college educated (indoctrinated) soccer mom types—— no I think I saying this to appeal to the more vocal anti-abortion types here.

Actually that bullshit I do agree it’s too extreme. No woman should have to raise the bastard child of a rapist or bring its flawed criminal genes live to the world. It should be her choice in the case of rape.

Why should I lie?


7 posted on 11/16/2023 10:40:00 AM PST by Phoenix8
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Most people don’t like abortion. Most people also want to allow a few abortions.

When the Supremes threw the question into the lap of the states, they started a debate in each state where the lines should be drawn.

Nobody will be completely satisfied when this settles out, in 20 years.


8 posted on 11/16/2023 10:55:05 AM PST by lurk (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
According to Google:

Natural selection is a mechanism of evolution. Organisms that are more adapted to their environment are more likely to survive and pass on the genes that aided their success. This process causes species to change and diverge over time.

The shallow people who choose to abort their spawn for their own selfish reasons, will be eliminated from the gene pool.

Maybe entire groups will choose to eliminate themselves.

9 posted on 11/16/2023 11:11:46 AM PST by oldbrowser ( Mexico is a failed country, we need to treat it as such.Do)
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the issues is that pro-aborts conflate medically necessary abortion with birth-control abortion. When there is a referendum on abortion, they run ads and hit the social media with messages that the “restrictions” on abortion will prevent women from having an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, or if the fetus is already dead. They use these scare tactics to convince people who lean pro-life to vote for unrestricted abortion.

Because it’s you, I will say that I see a *lot* of similarity between fanatic abortion advocates and antivax charlatans. Both groups use fear-mongering and lies to manipulate people.


10 posted on 11/16/2023 11:33:16 AM PST by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: Phoenix8
No woman should have to raise the bastard child of a rapist or bring its flawed criminal genes live to the world. It should be her choice in the case of rape.

No woman is ever forced to raise that child.

If she seeks medical care right after the assault, she can receive a "morning-after" treatment to prevent pregnancy.

If she has the baby, she can put it up for adoption.

It is not a given that a child of a criminal will grow up to be a criminal. The criminality is more of a product of environment than it is of genetics.

I had to go to assault prevention training. For that training, a woman told of how she had an abusive stepfather who assaulted her. While pregnancy after assault is rare, she did get pregnant. As soon as she found out, she asked her grandfather to take her to an abortion clinic, which he did. And what she said about that is heartbreaking. She knew that abortion kills a human being. And every day since she had that abortion, she has prayed for forgiveness. She went on to have five other children, but still prays for her first child every day.

Perhaps assault victims should be counselled first, before they make that spur-of-the-moment decision to terminate their baby? I don't think women are better off suffering guilt every day for the rest of their lives just because the abortion narrative says that getting rid of that child helps her to put the incident behind her. It seems to me that the abortion served to keep the incident fresh in her mind.

And no, I don't think she is an aberration. She's just brave enough to speak up. Women who feel guilt after abortion are treated like trash by the abortion industry and made to feel that they have to suppress and hide their guilt. There is nothing healthy about that.

11 posted on 11/16/2023 11:43:26 AM PST by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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I have 2 comments:
1. Women are not men.

Men can produce almost literally unlimited children from probably 15 to 75. Women are born with a few hundred eggs and their breeding range is far, far more narrow. Maybe 15 to 35. Of that time many months the egg won’t fertilize etc. even in the old days most women without birth control maybe had 10 kids or so. Today much less.

So why should a woman waste much of her reproductive time birthing the bastard of a a rapist? She is trading her reproductive choice with a good man with good genes for a man she has no love with with bad genes.

2. You said “criminality is more a product of the environment”. A very liberal and forgiving statement. Problem is it’s also false.

Science shows in fact it’s just the opposite and much of it from recent studies. Genetics appear to be the driving factor for violent crime in the modern world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-gyyYIamQE&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2F&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo


12 posted on 11/16/2023 1:36:41 PM PST by Phoenix8
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Actually, 42% of the vote is impressive in light of the tons of money spent by the baby killers.


13 posted on 11/16/2023 1:59:08 PM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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When the media censors information, and most people get news via headlines on smart phone (and a growing number of U.S. adults regularly get their news from TikTok, with almost a third of adults between 18 and 29 relying on the video-sharing platform, according to a survey from the Pew Research Center) then liberal misinformation and persuasion have it easy.


14 posted on 11/16/2023 3:28:21 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: SeekAndFind

America wants legal abortion. We need to recognize that and move on.


15 posted on 11/16/2023 3:31:49 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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America wants legal abortion Hell and self-destruction. We need to recognize that and move on.

FTFY

As for me and my house, we're going to make America vote for it and own it, over and over again until God sorts it out. I don't care how much power the GOP has too lose in the process.

16 posted on 11/16/2023 5:46:28 PM PST by Theophilus (It's far easier to rig a jury than an election)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump


17 posted on 11/17/2023 11:19:45 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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