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To: SeekAndFind

Lincoln’s approach led to the War Between the States.

There are degrees of “slavery”. An ancient Greek philosopher taken as a slave might just have to stick around and tutor the kids; serfs aren’t allowed a lot of freedom, but they couldn’t be whipped or sold on a whim; indetured servants could look forward to a day of freedom, and expect their children would also live free.

There are no degrees of abortion. Babies are allowed to live, or they are killed.

The “extreme” abolitionists also ginned up support for the Republican Party, got sympathetic juries and voters in key races. The souther states were going to secede whether it was John Brown or Abe Lincoln on top of the ticket.

Being a Pro-Life version of Stephen Douglas is NOT going to help he Pro-Life cause, and I am not going to pretend to be a moderate on the issue when I am not. I would support legislation written in the negative (abortions are not allowed when...) rather the positive (abortions are only allowed when...) as no abortions are legitimate. Same for funding.

This has gone beyond political but at least with Roe v. Wade overturned, it is easier to determine who the friends and foes are.


18 posted on 11/13/2023 10:27:15 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Dr. Sivana
If child murdering is to be legalized; do it without forcing taxpayers to fund it.

If it's a "Right to Choose" (aka; the forced terminology to make it sound woman-friendly), how about choosing with your own money? Oh.....that's right, those Baby Daddies can't use their EBT's and Food Stamps to pay for it? DNA testing required for ALL abortions, and then identify the fathers........born alive; same thing....DNA identify the fathers, and force them to pay child support. STOP the welfare/subsidies for "single mothers", who can't take responsibility for their actions.

31 posted on 11/13/2023 10:34:42 AM PST by traditional2 (lets go B*and*n)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“The souther states were going to secede whether it was John Brown or Abe Lincoln on top of the ticket.”

And this is the key. There are certain issues on which no political compromise is conceivable. Those issues must be settled decisively with one side winning, and one side losing, irrevocably. Slavery was one such issue, and abortion is another.

To compromise for some temporary political advantage is not a “win”, because the issue will still need to be decisively settled, one way or another.


37 posted on 11/13/2023 10:38:57 AM PST by Boogieman
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