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To: MinorityRepublican

I think the main issue is that the west has become so degenerate and weak and created a society that doesnt seem worth defending. On the left, western civilisation is considered irredeemable evil and on the right the prevailing culture seems to be about embracing identity politics, especially reality defying trans bs and fostering racial resentments.

Because of this many people want to seek alternatives. Do you think the average young muslim is going to look at western society and think its offering something better than an Islamic theocratic worldview which, while violent and evil, does at least offer a clear moral code and a willingness to uphold it.

I was speaking to an elderly muslim bloke once and he was telling me that he thought that muslims needed to be taught separately to non muslim kids and I was outraged and was ready to argue with him, but then he said something alongbyhe lines of

“when I arrived in Britain in the 1950s, our values were not that much different to the rest of society. We all believed in the sanctity of marriage, not sleeping around and binge drinking and we respected the Queen as the symbol of our shared identity. All of this has been replaced by drunkenness, drugs, promiscuity and rejecting morality. Why would we want to children to be part of this?”

I have to admit, he had a point. If it wasnt for the left utterly trashing traditional western values, they wouldn’t be seeing it as necessary to segregate from the rest of society and view their fellow citizens beyond their own communities with contempt. As is usual, the progressive left is the root of all social problems.


17 posted on 11/08/2023 5:30:21 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
If it wasnt for the left utterly trashing traditional western values.

I think it's deeper than that. At least in Europe, they were destroyed by World Wars.

But what about America? We came out of the world as a superpower. No one could beat us. Yet we are committing suicide.

18 posted on 11/08/2023 5:54:19 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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