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To: Red Badger

Gun Rights are NOT A FEDERAL ISSUE. Gun rights are a STATES’ ISSUE!!!

Nowhere does the Constitution give the feds power to regulate individual ownership of guns. Period. That is a STATE ISSUE!!!

Again, Patriots, stand against the unconstitutional, now totalitarian, portion of the federal government, the GREATEST threat to our lives, liberties, and well being.


3 posted on 11/07/2023 12:33:12 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N
Nowhere does the Constitution give the feds power to regulate individual ownership of guns.

True.

Quite the contrary ... the Constitution prohibits both the federal government and the several State governments to "infringe" on the right to keep and bear arms.

IMO it's not even a State issue. It's not an issue at all ... it's a Constitutional requirement that government keep its dirty hands off our weapons.

6 posted on 11/07/2023 12:37:44 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Jim W N
Actually... the Pre-amble to the BoR takes the issue out of the States hands as well. That's what a Declaratory and Restrictive clause is...

Or... As William Rawle put it...

"The corollary, from the first position, is, that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give to congress a power to disarm the people.

Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretence by a state legislature.

But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both."

William Rawle - A View of the US Constitution 1829

10 posted on 11/07/2023 12:41:01 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Jim W N

“Nowhere does the Constitution give the feds power to regulate individual ownership of guns. Period. That is a STATE ISSUE!!!”

No, it is NOT a State issue. The States do not have the right to regulate gun either!


19 posted on 11/07/2023 12:56:07 PM PST by CodeToad (Rule#1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: Jim W N

Gun Rights are NOT A FEDERAL ISSUE. Gun rights are a STATES’ ISSUE!!!


If I’m understanding you correctly, you are against the incorporation of rights listed in the Bill of Rights to apply to the states. So a state could amend its constitution to allow for ‘double jeopardy’ or limit the right of free speech. Or are you arguing that the Second Amendment is unique in that the right guaranteed doesn’t apply to state governments?


31 posted on 11/07/2023 1:22:29 PM PST by hanamizu ( )
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To: Jim W N

“Gun Rights are NOT A FEDERAL ISSUE. Gun rights are a STATES’ ISSUE!!!”

You may want to review the 14th Amendment; specifically: “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

That says that states cannot restrict rights protected by the Constitution without due process and equal protection (in the latter instance, the states are prohibited from allowing certain persons to enjoy rights protected under the Constitution while denying those same rights to others similarly situated).


36 posted on 11/07/2023 1:37:26 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Jim W N

You might also want to review Article VI, Clause 2; specifically, the Supremacy Clause: The Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and all federal laws and treaties arising out of it are superior to any state laws to the contrary.


40 posted on 11/07/2023 1:50:00 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Jim W N

I have to disagree with your position on this.

The right to self defense is a GOD GIVEN RIGHT, not given by the Feds, the States, the Counties, the Cities, or any other man or woman.

My GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE can extend, IF I SO CHOOSE to my family, my friends, my state, or my national government, but only if I choose to do so.

Therefore my right to self defense GIVEN BY GOD cannot be abrogated by any government or individual; as a civilized society we have promulgated certain laws and regulations that have been agreed upon by all “law abiding citizens”.

We as a society have agreed that certain CRIMINALS, after CONVICTION of their accused crimes can and shall be deprived of certain rights under our laws and the laws of GOD.

Convicted CRIMINALS have repudiated their responsibilities as citizens in good standing and therefore upon CONVICTION can and should be deprived of certain rights under our CONSTITUTION.

Upon completion of their sentence all rights and privileges should be restored.

That’s why the death penalty and life in prison should be enforced to the utmost, some crimes simply do not allow for the CRIMINAL to re-enter society.

My right to self defense is given by GOD, not man, and no organization, government entity, or person is allowed to deprive me of that right.

The means I choose to employ in my defense of self and or others is at my discretion!


45 posted on 11/07/2023 1:52:27 PM PST by 5th MEB
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To: Jim W N
Gun Rights are NOT A FEDERAL ISSUE. Gun rights are a STATES’ ISSUE!!!

All caps aside, the Fourteenth and Second Amendments would like to have a word with you.

46 posted on 11/07/2023 1:53:36 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: Jim W N

“Gun Rights are NOT A FEDERAL ISSUE. Gun rights are a STATES’ ISSUE!!!”

In McDonald v. Chicago (2010), the Supreme Court clarified that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment incorporated the Second Amendment against state and local governments.

Gun rights are rights. Period.


73 posted on 11/07/2023 3:01:50 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Jim W N
To your point about the States, sorry, the faction who were victorious in the Civil War gave those Black Robed tyrants more ammunition by ram rodding the 14th down civilians throats. Incorporation with modern interpretations can be picked at like a wound trying to heal. All you have are emotions and one person one vote. The Federal State has malignant progression based on universal suffrage comprised of easily led dumb-ass voters and interpretations of the law backed by a “Living Constitution”.
81 posted on 11/07/2023 5:47:23 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: Jim W N
Gun Rights are NOT A FEDERAL ISSUE. Gun rights are a STATES’ ISSUE!!!

So you believe States can abrogate the Constitution and the Feds have no power to stop them. Wow who knew it is so easy to amend the Constitution without amending the Constitution and here I thought all these years that only moron judges could do that.

104 posted on 11/08/2023 10:33:31 AM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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