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Hamas using Ukraine war tactics to ambush Israeli soldiers in Gaza
https://www.telegraph.com ^

Posted on 11/02/2023 12:52:46 PM PDT by 11th_VA

Chilling footage of a bomb dropping from a drone suggests Hamas is adopting tactics used widely in the Ukraine war

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Israel
KEYWORDS: armeddrones; dronekiller; drones
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Need to spread out
1 posted on 11/02/2023 12:52:46 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
Need to spread out.

Absolutely!

2 posted on 11/02/2023 12:55:06 PM PDT by rexthecat
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To: 11th_VA

I have to be a subscriber. What does it say?


3 posted on 11/02/2023 12:56:13 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: 11th_VA

Saw this video yesterday, a bunch of Israeli soldiers were talking in a circle and Hamas dropped a drone on them


4 posted on 11/02/2023 12:57:04 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: MNDude

You can watch the video. Drone drops a small bomb on what looks like a tank platoon.

I am surprised if the Israeli Iron Dome doesn’t identify these drones and shoot them down.

It’s war, and there will be casualties. Both sides will obviously try to adapt to conditions as they evolve. From the video Hamas seems somewhat prepared to lure IDF into unfavorable battle conditions. Hamas will want to try to repeat what happened to Israel in Lebanon - inflict enough damage on IDF troops that the Israeli public will turn against the war.


5 posted on 11/02/2023 1:00:16 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: 11th_VA

Leave the place alone- all alone

Nothing in, Nothing out.
Anything that moves, kill it.

Israelis aren’t gonna live there, so let it all rot in the sun.


6 posted on 11/02/2023 1:12:40 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: 11th_VA
The drone operator clearly had the time to aim well.

Was the drone too high for the troops to hear it?

7 posted on 11/02/2023 1:17:48 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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To: 11th_VA

War is always a learning curve.


8 posted on 11/02/2023 1:33:51 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: 11th_VA

You would think that radio frequency jammers could be employed to deny drone controls.


9 posted on 11/02/2023 1:41:09 PM PDT by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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To: monkeyshine

I seriously don’t think the Israeli public will turn against this war. Unlike Lebanon, Hamas slaughtered innocents and I truly believe the Israelites want blood.


10 posted on 11/02/2023 1:41:53 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople ( "Never thot I'd live to see the day when the right wing would become the cool ones"-Johnny Rotten)
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To: MuttTheHoople

I’ve heard of a major shift in opinions that Israeli’s now hold concerning the Palestinians.

Not as many lefties spewing their normal garbage. Nothing changes a mindset like a good slap in the face from Reality.


11 posted on 11/02/2023 2:19:54 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: monkeyshine
I am surprised if the Israeli Iron Dome doesn’t identify these drones and shoot them down.

Attack drones are a whole lot cheaper than the Iron Dome missiles and fly too low with the wrong profile for Iron Dome to be effective against them. Israel is also running out of the missiles for the Iron Dome system.

Until the infantry can deploy drone-killer drones, they will be at serious risk from attack drones. That is a new way of warfare. Sort of like when machine guns came online and made mass infantry charges unfeasible. Drones make armored vehicles and infantry groups unfeasible. For now. It is hard to spot drones, and even harder to kill them. They are too small and quick.

Later on, effective countermeasures will be developed and deployed. Nobody seems to have them right now. "Kill anything that moves in an area" is the best that soldiers can do.

What the IDF has going for themselves is that HAMAS cannot be resupplied with drones, or rockets, or ammunition or food or water. IDF has all of those things. The outcome should not be in doubt.

12 posted on 11/02/2023 2:38:30 PM PDT by flamberge (We are living in "interesting times".)
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have another Look at the video, the modified granade that’s dropped still has the safty pin installed


13 posted on 11/02/2023 2:54:17 PM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even n the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

I agree. Make it hard enough for the troops to go in, and the alternative is they will just flatten everything with artillery.


14 posted on 11/02/2023 2:59:30 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: Pox
I’ve heard of a major shift in opinions that Israeli’s now hold concerning the Palestinians

Given enough time for the propagandist Left to do their work . . .

15 posted on 11/02/2023 3:34:48 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Captain Walker

Well, one think I remember about wars is that they are loud. Even with no shooting, diesels rumbling, jets in the distance, a helo here, an explosion there.
A drone might be hard to pick up on. I was at an overlook on the Blue Ridge Parkway a few weeks ago and someone sent out a drone for a selfie of them standing there.
I was shocked at how quiet it was. The first ones were a lot more noisy.


17 posted on 11/02/2023 3:55:55 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: flamberge

“Until the infantry can deploy drone-killer drones, they will be at serious risk from attack drones. “

What they need is a -vigilant- air watch sentry and some accurate rifle fire. Also, we need to dust off a few EA-6Bs and utterly kill the Hamas radios, cell signals etc. Those drones have a signal link back to the operator. They need a missile or at least some powerful jamming.


18 posted on 11/02/2023 3:59:42 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino
I'll go with your opinion on this.

I had seen some footage from Afghanistan where a US patrol had a drone overhead getting an aerial view of the surrounding area; the noise from the drone was almost incessant. Its presence could not have been missed.

Obviously, if they're quieter or even if you're near an idling tank, you wouldn't hear it.

19 posted on 11/02/2023 4:18:12 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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To: DesertRhino

A ten gauge with a 34 inch barrel will do well.

Lead, not steel shot. 3 and a half inch magnums put an 8 ft pattern at 100 yards with number 4 buck. At 200 yards it is just over 16 feet. So add a couple more inches on the barrel and the range would increase.

I know..I had one. I loaded mine hot and increased the range quite a bit. Wasnt unusual to flatten three or four geese at a time.


20 posted on 11/02/2023 5:27:07 PM PDT by crz
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