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To: DesertRhino
They’re not “assault rifles” by definition. Assault Rifles are capable of fully automatic fire. Modern sporting rifles are not. The semantics game will not save us. They mean military style rifles with all the functions. Yes, a civilian AR-15 could be be easily substituted in military service with almost no loss of function. We will not win by parroting the assault rifle definition and “proving” that your Colt AR-15A4 is not select fire, and therefor, NOT an assault rifle. As we spike the ball and think we win the debate, they will say, “yeah whatever, we want the AR you have.... whatever you want to call it”. Hobbiests and shooters smugly declare victory when they want to ban 30 round clips. We ask about their en bloc clip and their AR Garand and think we won. They couldn’t care less about lingo. They want the 30 round clips and the assault rifles and couldn’t care less what we call it.

These people use language to deceive, not to communicate. You cannot let your enemy define the terms. So we must firstly REJECT their definitions and then point out how the things they want to ban will not be effective in stopping what they CLAIM they want to stop. Then we need to point out that since the bans they CLAIM will stop a certain harm will not do so and they know that, they must be wanting to impose bans and strip away citizen's rights for another reason.....

34 posted on 10/31/2023 12:23:49 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

Doesn’t work like that. Other than hobby shooters, collectors, and enthusiasts, there is no functional difference between an assault rifle M-16, and a semi auto of the exact same pattern in AR semi style. Both are equally capable, and the semi auto shooter is probably to be feared even more.
Think of it this way. When they say they want to restrict how many bullets someone can buy, you don’t smugly sit there and think “Ha, I’m not a reloader”. And you don’t think you won because they didn’t say how many cartridges you may buy.

Nobody except hobbiests, knows or cares the difference between an official definition assault rifle, and a functionally identical AR-15. For them the difference is it best, academic. They want to take away the rifle somebody walks in with and does a mass murder in the night club. You won’t win a thing by convincing the public that it wasn’t a full auto, and therefore, not an assault rifle, and therefore, completely outside the balance of the discussion the politician is pushing. You win nothing.


39 posted on 10/31/2023 1:17:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: FLT-bird

If they say they want to ban M-14s, only a fool would roll their eyes and say “Ha, I have an M1A, you don’t even know the proper name of what you want to ban! Lol

Priggery will win us nothing except points among our friends.


40 posted on 10/31/2023 1:23:44 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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