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IRS Using Fake Names to Intimidate and Harass Taxpayers
Hotair ^ | 10/30/2023 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/30/2023 9:24:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

This is gonna get outta control and we’re gonna hafta kill people.


21 posted on 10/30/2023 11:20:51 PM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dear Lord Jesus, please bless and defend all on FR from the evil one and his servants, and thank You and the Father for Your precious Blood of the ‘Lamb, who takes away the sin of the world.’ now, please, Lord, let the IRS (and all the alphabets) be thwarted in every evil plan they devise, against Your People and Your Church. let their great scourge and burden on the people of America quickly pass away. nevertheless, let the Father’s Will be done always, and in His Son’s Holy Name i continue to ask for relief and protection from this corrupt gov’t that we now have over us. Amen.


22 posted on 10/30/2023 11:22:03 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems the irs believes its a local/state/federal police agency.

The police can lie to you.


23 posted on 10/30/2023 11:39:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: HKMk23

Paraphrasing Hunt for Red October... :)


24 posted on 10/30/2023 11:40:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The fake name routine has been the norm for quite some time, but especially since social media has blossomed.

I am in regular communication with many agents who use pseudonyms, especially in collections. Many have shared with me why they had to do it.

Recently an IRS Collections Agent told me of a disgruntled taxpayer who posted pictures of her children and extended family on their own social media as a threat. It really scared her and she then began using a fake name.

I see both sides of this issue, and as a mediator trying to solve taxpayer issues, it’s easy to see that there are a lot of mentally ill taxpayers who reach the point of despair and turn to violence. Especially those who are beings taxed and assets seized for criminal operations revenue.

I’ve handled several IRS criminal cases with CID, and it’s not easy. Yes, the system is open to abuse by agents, and that does happen. However, the IRS has a feedback system to find and correct rogue agents. I was the liason between a large state society of CPA’s and the regional IRS prior to my retirement. To use the Director’s own words to me, “Sometimes our agent’s wander off the farm and we need your help to reel them back inside again.” They monitor for rogue agents and curtail them. I have been involved in several such cases that resulted in termination of both audit and collection agents.

The problem is that right now the IRS got all this money in exchange for not prosecuting Joe and Hunter. That’s why Joe held onto this issue in the recent budget negotiations with McCarthy.

The huge influx of new agents that are untrained will create many problems. IRS staff is right now doubling in size with new green recruits. It’s a confrontation waiting to happen. 😥


25 posted on 10/31/2023 12:05:16 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: lee martell

Yes, under Biden, the down economy has resulted in a huge drop in tac revenue.

They haven’t talked about it in the news, but the 2023 tax revenue dropped somewhere between $500 billion to $1 trillion from 2022 tax revenue, depending upon which fake numbers Treasury uses this week. It’s so bad that Treasury reports on their website contradict themselves in the same report. Thankfully, I’ve done screenshots or I would have thought I was imagining this chaos of lies.


26 posted on 10/31/2023 12:13:13 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yeah. One of my favorites.

Never thought I’d miss the Cold War days.
After we lost our focus on a common, foreign enemy, everything’s about gone to Hell.


27 posted on 10/31/2023 12:13:21 AM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: tired&retired

Bookmark.

Thanks for posting.


28 posted on 10/31/2023 12:14:50 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The government can KMA. They want unfettered tyranny without consequences.


29 posted on 10/31/2023 12:17:55 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule#1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: HKMk23

Everyone thinks the russians changed here after 1991.

They didn’t. The soviet mindset didn’t change. The country is still oligarchy socialist. Soviets don’t just changle their entire belief system because of a name change.

People were idealistically naive to fall for it.


30 posted on 10/31/2023 12:21:57 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I know they didn’t change.
I’ve worked with several.
Some who got out before the wall came down...
Others who came afterward.
I’ve met “the Soviet mindset,” and Ivan Ivanovich never had any real taste for world domination.
The working stiffs wanted Russia First, not Russia Only.
They wanted Levis, an Atari, and a Big Mac.
Trouble was rarely the common people; always their leaders, and most of them were only posturing for the rest of them.
Only a few nutters were really True Believers.

Same as us.

I knew the whole damned time all the pearl-clutching about getting nuked was bullshit. Hollywood notwithstanding, Soviet rank-and-file military weren’t interested in getting fried just to prove a point for the Politburo.
Besides, Russians are of a more Western, civilized mindset; they’re not prone to cold utilitarianism like men raised with Eastern philosophy: China, the Norks...

If the ol’ CCCP had been full of Chinese...THEN we’d have really had our butts puckered.

If they’d have been Islamic, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Some idiot in 1980 blabbing about how Reagan — “That gunslingin’ cowboy” as he called him — was gonna get us into a shooting war with the Soviets.
Reagan was maybe the ONLY leader in Washington who WOULDN’T.
Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko, Gorbachev — not a real zealot among them; they didn’t have their hearts set on dying.

Not like this Middle Eastern lot.
They’re a whole ‘nother level of berserk.

But the disintegration of the American ethos is spawning loons domestically. Our agencies are getting a little too loose in the hinges. They’re beginning to think they can take liberties, and in several cases they have. The J6 smirking chimp trials seem to have really energized them as to what they may be able to get away with.

About all a man can do is make money and spend money.
Keep quiet and look sharp.
Work your Mozambique pattern to the point of muscle memory.
Hope you never need it, but answer decisively if the call comes.


31 posted on 10/31/2023 1:06:33 AM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think most folks get the concept of using fake names for agents dealing directly with the public as a protective measure.

The more interesting angle is why do we need such protection to begin with?

People attack the government when they are threatened by it. In the early US history, there wasn’t any need for this and not even secret service.

But “elections having consequences” didn’t mean one administration vs another would completely destroy your life. Nor was there rampant “confiscatory” taxes.

Just look at the difference between Trump and Biden.

The real problem is, it’s only going to get worse.


32 posted on 10/31/2023 1:31:42 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: SeekAndFind
The agent thought he was like the IRS agent in "The Untouchables".


33 posted on 10/31/2023 1:54:32 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: tired&retired
The huge influx of new agents that are untrained will create many problems. IRS staff is right now doubling in size with new green recruits. It’s a confrontation waiting to happen.

Oh, I think it will get next-level crazy. I think the new people will be drawn from the CRT crowd, and will see their mission as being to take down the whole "Trumpist" movement.

Visualize an IRS dominated by what you used to call rogue agents.

34 posted on 10/31/2023 2:03:15 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Out of fear from later intimidation, will it also be acceptable for me to use a fake name when communicating with an IRS agent?

EC


35 posted on 10/31/2023 4:05:14 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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Indeed. There are, in fact, numerous legitimate reasons to use a pseudonym.

NONE of them apply to IRS agents acting in their official capacity as public “servants”.


36 posted on 10/31/2023 4:28:57 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Drago
Probably due to threats to IRS employees from taxpayers...public-facing IRS employees get to use a “Stage Name”.

So ... due to threats to We the People from IRS thugs, do IRS-facing Citizens get to use a "Stage Name"?

We're not allowed to lie to them ... fair enough. Allowing them to lie to us is intolerable and must end.

37 posted on 10/31/2023 4:31:30 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: dadfly

Thank you very much!!


38 posted on 10/31/2023 4:33:49 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: tired&retired

Thanks for giving it the ol’ college try, but you can’t polish a turd.

Our government owes We the People, who pay their salaries, honesty and transparency. The IRS is the very opposite of honesty and transparency.


39 posted on 10/31/2023 4:41:43 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SeekAndFind

fair tax. get rid of irs completely


40 posted on 10/31/2023 5:12:02 AM PDT by cdpap
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