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To: dynachrome

If we don’t start identifying these mentally I’ll people and put them in a place where they can get help this will continue to happen over and over.


19 posted on 10/27/2023 6:16:35 PM PDT by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore……)
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To: McGavin999

We need AI tracking all humanoids.


20 posted on 10/27/2023 6:17:25 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: McGavin999

You make that sound so simple and easy.


22 posted on 10/27/2023 6:19:30 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
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To: McGavin999
If we don’t start identifying these mentally I’ll people and put them in a place where they can get help this will continue to happen over and over.

Be careful what you wish for....psyhc wards have been used by the Left to imprison their enemies in the past.

28 posted on 10/27/2023 6:23:39 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: McGavin999

this country wil never do this!

It costs $$$$$$.

we already dont take care of all the mentally ill that are homeless.

It will happen over and over.
do you have any idea how much mental health would cost?

the Taxpayers have already said NO every year in every state.

dream on.


57 posted on 10/27/2023 6:49:38 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: McGavin999

Didn’t Hillary say all Trump Supporters need to be in reeducation camps? For their own good, of course. so they can get help, right?


77 posted on 10/27/2023 7:07:48 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: dynachrome; McGavin999; Fury
It is very difficult to predictively diagnose those who will actually carryout and harm others. Locking away and/or disarming people who seek help will not likely prove to be a resounding success. More likely it will result in increased deception and avoidance of seeking help. The disturbing truth is that like so many of us, those who actually are mentally ill very often say or threaten things they never intend or have the wherewithal to carryout.

Many on FR have made the assumption that hearing voices is exclusively diagnostic of schizophrenia but it isn't. And absent a number of additional signs and symptoms, that diagnosis may likely be incorrect. Hearing voices is often reported by polydrug users (including cannabis users), by individuals undergoing extreme stress, sensory disruptions, and some who are best diagnosed as having bipolar disorder.

As a clinical psychologist, I like to follow my training: first review the record, then examine the patient. Neither can be done as yet. Perhaps more will be revealed in the autopsy and if evidence is made available. But it concerns me that this individual's higher levels of functioning do not fit well with those impromptu diagnoses offered.

Often, dangerousness (to self or others) is transient and temporary and most people stabilize in much less than 2 weeks. Those of us wishing to see society solve the problem by locking potential offenders away, might best recall the willingness and certainty of many psychiatrists to improperly and incorrectly diagnose Barry Goldwater in 1964. Or those 100+ who more recently claimed with equal certainty that that Donald Trump - who they never met, much less interviewed and examined - had a "dangerous mental illness", "a narcistic personality", and was too dangerous to be allowed to continue his presidency.

Just what do you think those professionals believe about those of us who supported either or both candidates? Rather than searching for the needle in the haystack and trying to guess which individual may become or prove to be actually dangerous, I think the evidence continues to mount that the greater danger is the gun free zone - and any time I enter one I am putting my at risk. The world has changed and it is not a safer place. Better to recognize the danger and be prepared to deal with it.

159 posted on 10/27/2023 9:26:38 PM PDT by PsyCon
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To: McGavin999

Identifying the mentally ill and putting them in a place where they can get help??

That’s a lot of mental wards. Our nation does not have the capacity to hold every diehard leftist democrat.


189 posted on 10/28/2023 7:30:43 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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