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Hamas war must end with vision for a ‘two-state solution’
CNBC ^ | WED, OCT 25 2023

Posted on 10/25/2023 3:54:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The Palestinians got screwed by the Balfour Declaration, resulting in Nakba and other atrocities.

The Sykes-Picot agreement in 1916 set things in motion to carve up the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire, an Islamic caliphate, had ruled the Palestinian area since 1517.

1916 SYKES-PICOT (Britain-France) SECRET AGREEMENT

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/sykes.asp

Plotting to carve up the Ottoman Empire in 1916.

The Sykes-Picot Agreement: 1916

It is accordingly understood between the French and British governments:

That France and Great Britain are prepared to recognize and protect an independent Arab states or a confederation of Arab states (a) and (b) marked on the annexed map, under the suzerainty of an Arab chief. That in area (a) France, and in area (b) Great Britain, shall have priority of right of enterprise and local loans. That in area (a) France, and in area (b) Great Britain, shall alone supply advisers or foreign functionaries at the request of the Arab state or confederation of Arab states.

That in the blue area France, and in the red area Great Britain, shall be allowed to establish such direct or indirect administration or control as they desire and as they may think fit to arrange with the Arab state or confederation of Arab states.

That in the brown area there shall be established an international administration, the form of which is to be decided upon after consultation with Russia, and subsequently in consultation with the other allies, and the representatives of the Shereef of Mecca.

That Great Britain be accorded (1) the ports of Haifa and Acre, (2) guarantee of a given supply of water from the Tigres and Euphrates in area (a) for area (b). His Majesty's government, on their part, undertake that they will at no time enter into negotiations for the cession of Cyprus to any third power without the previous consent of the French government.

That Alexandretta shall be a free port as regards the trade of the British empire, and that there shall be no discrimination in port charges or facilities as regards British shipping and British goods; that there shall be freedom of transit for British goods through Alexandretta and by railway through the blue area, or (b) area, or area (a); and there shall be no discrimination, direct or indirect, against British goods on any railway or against British goods or ships at any port serving the areas mentioned.

That Haifa shall be a free port as regards the trade of France, her dominions and protectorates, and there shall be no discrimination in port charges or facilities as regards French shipping and French goods. There shall be freedom of transit for French goods through Haifa and by the British railway through the brown area, whether those goods are intended for or originate in the blue area, area (a), or area (b), and there shall be no discrimination, direct or indirect, against French goods on any railway, or against French goods or ships at any port serving the areas mentioned.

That in area (a) the Baghdad railway shall not be extended southwards beyond Mosul, and in area (b) northwards beyond Samarra, until a railway connecting Baghdad and Aleppo via the Euphrates valley has been completed, and then only with the concurrence of the two governments.

That Great Britain has the right to build, administer, and be sole owner of a railway connecting Haifa with area (b), and shall have a perpetual right to transport troops along such a line at all times. It is to be understood by both governments that this railway is to facilitate the connection of Baghdad with Haifa by rail, and it is further understood that, if the engineering difficulties and expense entailed by keeping this connecting line in the brown area only make the project unfeasible, that the French government shall be prepared to consider that the line in question may also traverse the Polgon Banias Keis Marib Salkhad tell Otsda Mesmie before reaching area (b).

For a period of twenty years the existing Turkish customs tariff shall remain in force throughout the whole of the blue and red areas, as well as in areas (a) and (b), and no increase in the rates of duty or conversions from ad valorem to specific rates shall be made except by agreement between the two powers.

There shall be no interior customs barriers between any of the above mentioned areas. The customs duties leviable on goods destined for the interior shall be collected at the port of entry and handed over to the administration of the area of destination.

It shall be agreed that the French government will at no time enter into any negotiations for the cession of their rights and will not cede such rights in the blue area to any third power, except the Arab state or confederation of Arab states, without the previous agreement of his majesty's government, who, on their part, will give a similar undertaking to the French government regarding the red area.

The British and French government, as the protectors of the Arab state, shall agree that they will not themselves acquire and will not consent to a third power acquiring territorial possessions in the Arabian peninsula, nor consent to a third power installing a naval base either on the east coast, or on the islands, of the red sea. This, however, shall not prevent such adjustment of the Aden frontier as may be necessary in consequence of recent Turkish aggression.

The negotiations with the Arabs as to the boundaries of the Arab states shall be continued through the same channel as heretofore on behalf of the two powers.

It is agreed that measures to control the importation of arms into the Arab territories will be considered by the two governments.

I have further the honor to state that, in order to make the agreement complete, his majesty's government are proposing to the Russian government to exchange notes analogous to those exchanged by the latter and your excellency's government on the 26th April last. Copies of these notes will be communicated to your excellency as soon as exchanged.I would also venture to remind your excellency that the conclusion of the present agreement raises, for practical consideration, the question of claims of Italy to a share in any partition or rearrangement of turkey in Asia, as formulated in article 9 of the agreement of the 26th April, 1915, between Italy and the allies.

His Majesty's government further consider that the Japanese government should be informed of the arrangements now concluded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

The BALFOUR DECLARATION of 1917

Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917.

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

“His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country”.

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,
/s/ Arthur James Balfour

The Balfour Declaration eventually led to the creation of the Jewish and Palestinian territories under the League of Nations and the United Nations.

1920: TREATY OF SEVRES

https://treaties.fcdo.gov.uk/awweb/pdfopener?md=1&did=63986

100 pp PDF

Carving up the Ottoman Empire

The plan dreamed up by the Europeans to carve up the Ottoman Empire would have reduced Turkey to a rump state, so Turkey went to war. That was finally resolved with the Treaty of Lausanne and the creation of the Turkish Republic.

1923: TREATY OF LAUSSANE

https://www.mfa.gov.tr/lausanne-peace-treaty-part-i_-political-clauses.en.mfa

Lausanne Peace Treaty

Part I.

Political Clauses

Article 1

From the coming into force of the present Treaty, the state of peace will be definitely re-established between the British Empire, France, Italy, Japan, Greece, Roumania and the Serb-Croat-Slovene State of the one part, and Turkey of the other part, as well as between their respective nationals.

Official relations will be resumed on both sides and, in the respective territories, diplomatic and consular representatives will receive, without prejudice to such agreements as may be concluded in the future, treatment in accordance with the general principles of international law.

Section I.

1.Tereitorial Clauses

Article 2.

From the Black Sea to the Aegean the frontier of Turkey is laid down as follows (see Map No.1).

[...]

UNITED NATIONS ACTIONS

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-187751/

Future government of Palestine – GA debate – Verbatim record HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOURTH PLENARY MEETING

Held in the General Assembly Hall at Flushing Meadow, New York, on Wednesday,

26 November 1947, at 11 a.m.

President: Mr. O. ARANHA (Brazil)

123. Palestinian question: report of the Ad Hoc Committee on the Palestinian Question (document A/516)

[...]

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-178646/

Palestine question/Future government/Partition plan – Ad Hoc Cttee report, recommendations

REPORT OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON THE PALESTINIAN QUESTION

Rapporteur: Mr. Thor THORS (Iceland)

1. The General Assembly, at its ninetieth meeting held on 23 September 1947, established an Ad Hoc Committee on the Palestinian Question, to which it referred the following items:

(a) Question of Palestine: item proposed by the United Kingdom (document A/286);

(b) Report of the Special Committee on Palestine (A/364);

(c) Termination of the Mandate over Palestine and the recognition of its independence as one State: item proposed by Saudi Arabia and by Iraq (A/317 and A/328).

[...]


101 posted on 10/25/2023 6:56:51 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

And do you know hamas ass kisser that the very name Palestine comes from the pleshet and refers to the Philistines who weren’t even a semitic peope. And that it was Hadrian who tried to expunge any connection of the Jews to their ancient homeland by renaming Judea to SyrSyria Palaestina and Jerusalem to to Aelia Capitolina aftw his wife. Well guess what sunshine, your fake philistines aka Arabs have deep historical connection with Jerusalem or anywhere but the miserable Arab hordes they came from and can go back to.


102 posted on 10/25/2023 6:58:28 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

No deep historical connection.


103 posted on 10/25/2023 6:59:24 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Were they ever kicked out of 109 nations as your “Chosen” people have?


104 posted on 10/25/2023 7:00:12 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: woodpusher

More revisionist history


105 posted on 10/25/2023 7:10:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: MinorityRepublican

how do you have a two state solution when one side doesnt want it?


106 posted on 10/25/2023 7:15:38 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

i believe it is somewhere around six


107 posted on 10/25/2023 7:16:19 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: dfwgator
There can be no two-state solution, until the majority of Palestians no longer desire the eradication of all Jews.

There, fixed it.

108 posted on 10/25/2023 7:18:46 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: PIF

killing non-believers

they will not stop with the jews


109 posted on 10/25/2023 7:20:20 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: SunkenCiv

Iran has a lot of land - carve out a country there for the “Palestinians”... I mean, that would be ‘two states’, right?


110 posted on 10/25/2023 7:25:44 PM PDT by GOPJ (The reason Biden won't protect our border is he wants cash kickbacks for doing it. )
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To: EinNYC

Well it’s essentially the same thing, because it will never happen.


111 posted on 10/25/2023 7:26:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It cannot end in 2 state. Hamas will never allow it nor will those living in the Gaza Strip.

So Israel will end Hamas. Only path to peace.


112 posted on 10/25/2023 7:38:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: GOPJ
We could get the entire country of Iran to surrender if we bombarded them with Flock of Seagulls 'music'.

113 posted on 10/25/2023 7:56:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“President Joe Biden Wednesday stressed the United States believes the conflict between Israel and Hamas must end with a vision of a “two-state solution.”

“There’s no going back to the status quo as it stood on Oct. 6, that means Hamas can no longer terrorize Israel and use Palestinians as human shields” Biden said. “It also means, when this crisis is over there has to be a vision of what comes next, and, in our view, it has to be a two-state solution.”

Achieving this, Biden said, means “a concentrated effort for all the parties — Israelis, Palestinians, regional partners, global leaders — to put us on a path toward peace.”..”

Genesis 12:3
Joel 3:2

Mistreatment of Israel and the Jewish people and attempts to divide the Lord’s property do not end well.

https://thewashingtonstandard.com/america-hit-10-times-major-disasters-following-attempts-divide-land-israel/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe7JYHRWj64


114 posted on 10/25/2023 7:57:16 PM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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To: SunkenCiv

You know - that’s not a bad idea...


115 posted on 10/25/2023 7:58:32 PM PDT by GOPJ (The reason Biden won't protect our border is he wants cash kickbacks for doing it. )
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To: GOPJ

Yup. I can’t get even one minute into this crap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRtTx0dFKIE

check out the summarizer:

https://search.brave.com/search?q=flock+of+seagulls+i+ran


116 posted on 10/25/2023 8:24:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

When the authorities caught up to Black Beard he and his crew got hot lead and cold steel. The survivors got the rope and their women and children were sold on the docks of Charlestown and Williamsburg.


117 posted on 10/25/2023 8:37:52 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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To: Fledermaus

Concur.


118 posted on 10/25/2023 9:13:57 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (🇺🇸✝️🇮🇱)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Palis had an opportunity to establish a “two state solution” ...THEY WERE LIVING NEXT TO ISRAEL...THEY HAD THE BIG DICISION TO MAKE...DO WE WANT TO BE A PRODUCTIVE SOCIETY...OR DO WE WANT TO SPEND OUR LIVES JUST “KILLING JEWS”, BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT MAKES US HAPPY.

They chose A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION TO BE THEIR GOVERNMENT. THEY CHOSE ...HAMAS!!!

WHO WOULD DO THAT?????

SAVAGES, UNCIVILIZED, HATEFUL...it appears that nothing NOTHING... IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN KILLING JEWS.

Meanwhile, Israel...LEAVING THE PALIS TO THEIR OWN DESTINY ..GIVING THEM THE ABILITY TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT...CREATED A STATE...A CIVIL STATE.
A state where there is cooperation, innovation, production, exchange of ideas and research, and on and on.

All the while the Palis DID NOTHING BUT HATE. HOW NICE IT IS TO RELY ON OTHER COUNTRIES TO SEND THEM MONEY SO THEY DON’T HAVE TO WORK FOR OR CREATE THINGS OR OPEN GYMS, FOR GOD’S SAKE.

WHY ARE THE PALIS SUCH LOSERS WHO CANNOT SEEM TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.


119 posted on 10/25/2023 9:33:25 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Maris Crane

I had to get that off my chest.

I apologize for the rant.


120 posted on 10/25/2023 9:34:31 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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