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From rlmorel: "...The end result, is they wish to force people onto mass transportation by this method. They want to make driving so inconvenient that mass transportation becomes more viable..."

From alancarp: Destroy suburban living and rural America and they'll be able to control much more of the population than today.

I agree 100% with alancarp's summary that the Dims wish to force people into mass transportation, which means more control over the masses. And I agree with rlmorel's summary that destroying suburban and rural America helps them control the population, but I disagree that solar and EV's achieve their goal.

A small but growing number of us in suburban/rural conservative land in the south are doing decentralized solar (making our own power so that we have to buy less energy from over-regulated utility sources) and some of us are buying EV's for that purpose (I can make my own power to charge my EV for local driving, I wish I could make my own gasoline for fueling my ICE pickup, but I can't, so my wife and I do most of our driving in the EV). And usually the more rural the area, the more miles you drive, thus the more sense an EV makes (driving 26K miles per year in our EV saves us enough on gas to make the extra cost of an EV worth it, about 20K of those miles are charged at home for local driving or small trips in which half of the charge came from home).

So yes, "green" energy and EV's as the Dims push it will yield the controlling of the masses that the Dims want. But don't be surprised if more and more of us conservatives specialize in self-reliant "green" energy with home solar, wind, and or water power (pico wind turbines and pico water turbines). In fact, when I did a large solar project for my home, the only places I could find actionable information (without all the buzzwords and eco-hype) were the prepper forums.

I hear you, but here is the thing: Solar and Wind are expensive. Very expensive, even if you are factoring in the ROI on it.

The up-front costs are out of the reach of most American. If you can afford the up-front costs to get solar, that is awesome.

And, if you are the type of person who doesn’t go far from home, and don’t have to do a daily long commute, even better. (By the way, just to be clear: I am not “anti-EV” in the same way I am not “anti-vax”. I am simply anti-MANDATED EV and anti-MANDATED vax.)

But no matter how you slice it, forcing people into this without the infrastructure in place, which is exactly what they are trying to do for the reasons I outlined, is a loss of freedom, and they are the ones who have unilaterally decided they are the ones who get to decide what freedoms you are allowed, “for the greater good”.

I am wholly onboard with being self reliant, in all ways possible, so I admire you for that. I was even pricing out building myself a tow-able solar-array, but...well, my wife doesn’t see the need for it.

Yet.